Hell, a minivan with the seats removed does a better job of hauling lumber (and most other non tall stuff) than the 90%-95% of F-150s that are sold with 5.5' beds. And gets better mpg, to boot!

But we digress from the Lightning subject. Like most EVs, the Lightning will be fine for its targeted, local use customer.

 

Ok I guess I have a bunch of sales people telling me the lightning is perfect for me. I guess I will tell you how I use it to justify my post.

So toys: travel trailer 5000 lbs. The average distance I drive is 250 miles. The places we camp sometimes has power but most of the time it doesn't. So I guess I can tow the trailer non-stop with no charging but I highly doubt it but I will need to make sure I am running the generator to charge once I get there. Boat: we launch from places which do not have power. May only be 45 miles but if I am going out for the day, why do I want to worry about the truck. Bikes: since we need to drive about 72 miles to do this. We do not have field to ride in. We need to leave suburbia to ride. We are pulling an enclosed 6x15 trailer with the bikes/quad place we ride is out in the woods and no charging ports. Sleds: we need to drive 500+ miles to get to where we sled on our trips so. Tow car to track: if I am towing my car to
the track for a fun day/weekend, the last thing I want to worry about is will my truck have the charge to get to/from. Most tracks don't have power to use while there. They have power but never in the pits where we have to park. The 4 track I go to, not an option to charge. I already have to worry about the car which can be consuming enough.

I also take many other long distance trips which I take the truck. 3-4 trips are 500-1500 miles I am not going to stop for countless hours to charge or plan a trip around the limited mileage. Plain and simple.

3) G ahead and buy 305/55/20's mounted and your at 80lbs but that might not be exact. There are countless treads talking about weight/size of their tires and MPG loss on this forum.

I have the F150 for specific needs and the lightening does not meet those in paper. You may argue that the Lightening meets everyone but it will be based solely on marketing. I have never heard a persons on these forums bitch about the MPG their EcoBoost gets compare to what the sticker states.

Maybe Ford will prove me wrong and will build the perfect Lightning so I will wait and see the real world numbers.

 

When a vehicle is not the right fit for you, it's not the right fit for you. There is absolutely no need, and it does no good to anybody whatsoever, to go into a thread dedicated to that vehicle and just crap all over it because it doesn't work for you. That's called being a jerk, to put it mildly.

If your use case for your truck is to tow an RV to a campsite that might not even have power, your ideal F150 is a Powerboost.

 

I don't think it's perfect for you, but it doesn't have to be. You are the one that came out right away saying it is not a serious truck, as if an F-150 is a serious truck (it also is not, it's a light duty truck), but it isn't bad just because it doesn't fit your needs.

I agree, the lightning isn't a great fit for you. It isn't even the truck's fault really, someone noted above and it's my biggest issue with launching EV trucks, they don't have pull through charging stations hardly anywhere. Tesla doesn't either with the supercharger network and they expect to launch an EV truck as well and are claiming insane towing numbers, but it will be a royal pain to actually do so if you have to unhook.

So just like, don't get one. Nobody is forcing you, nobody is forcing you to comment on this thread or be here at all. We are all well aware of the limitations of the Lightning, but there are limitations to F-150s in general. I don't recommend an F-150 to someone with a 9000lb TT, so why would I recommend the Lightning to you if you two 250 miles with a TT hooked up? I wouldn't.

The only thing I think you get wrong is your discussion on charging. People have it in their head that they have to stop for "countless hours" to charge on road trips, and it's flat out not true. Not in the least. Not even a little bit. Even going 5000 miles, you would not have "countless hours" of charging. If comparing purely charging vs refueling rates, you will spend more time charging than comparable refueling, but on a 1500 mile trip which I assume is multiple days, you get a bonus by staying at a hotel that has charging, which many do now, so you start the next day fully charged, which is the equivalent of skipping a gas station stop. You can also charge in many places when you stop for lunch or just to stretch. Even if you have to make a dedicated charging stop. you are there for 15-20 minutes, not hours.

But this is getting back into that back and forth that gets us nowhere. Talking these numbers or what-ifs is dumb without an actual truck on the road. That goes both ways, I can't really defend something I don't have numbers on, and you wasted time coming here making accusations against a truck we don't have to really compare.

But even in real world, I don't think this first edition is for you. Which is fine, it doesn't have to be. ICE versions aren't going away when it launches, so just stick to your ICE F-150. I think the 5.0 F-150 is pointless, so I don't buy one. I also wouldn't want the 3.3L even though I know both the 5.0 and 3.3L are great engines in their own right. I don't need to make posts about it everywhere though, I just don't buy it.

 

Same. It would be a cool frunk.

I wonder if the weight distribution is a little better after seeing the pics of the bare frame. Wonder if it would calm down the rear end a bit on bumps.

And what's the PRO trim level? I haven't been following the Lightning too much since it's so early into production.

 

I don't think this truck was built for people like you and I. But the vast majority of truck owners drive them like big SUV's. That's who this truck was built for. Doesn't have a long enough range for my use, but it would work fine for a lot of people.

Don't get me wrong. I would never buy this truck. I would buy a Tesla over this, if I wanted an electric vehicle. But. it's still a cool truck, even if it won't work for a lot of us.

 

Pro is basically like an XL, but while an XL is often bought for fleet use, the Pro is almost exclusively aimed at fleet use. I think anyone can buy the standard Pro, but the extended range pro is limited to fleet (hopefully I don't have that backwards).

While they could have just called it XL, I think they are trying to focus it towards fleets more exclusively, so they took a different approach.

 

You have it right.

No extended range pro for regular people, fleet only. Stripper work truck level akin to XL.

 

Well I been sitting on the fence on getting the Powerboost F150 with the 7.2KW on board power, or waiting to get the full EV F150.

Not sure what are the chances of actually getting our hands on the lightning in 2022 (have not reserved one yet)

but also waiting to see what the Canadian versions will be optioned with as we only know its starting at $ 68K that it.

But i do like what i see, and am excited to have this new F150 as an option in the future

 

Basically 0 chance

I mean maybe some reservation holders will buy and then immediately turn around and sell at an even-higher price for a profit and you could pay out the *** for one that way? Maybe? But straight from Ford, you're not getting one in 2022, maybe/probably not even 2023, with no reservation yet