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Old Jan 31, 2023 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FarmerBen
Sounds like a rather horrible experience, but I’d wager this is more the exception and not the rule. I’ve got 160K miles between the three F150’s I’ve owned/own and have yet to step foot in a dealership with the exception of one recall visit; it’s why I keep coming back to them.

Try the new Tundra and report back on the comparison. I enjoy seeing how all the competition stacks up for better or worse.
Sounds like someone that didn't read the manual for at least part of it. The drivetrain is super smooth, but there is a learning period on any modern truck where it's sometimes harsher that you would like. This is outlined in the manual pretty clearly.

Not sure what is meant by the 4x4 system, mine works perfectly. The wheel well liners are standard OEM liners, I cannot imagine the stretching you would have to do to mark that as a negative. Just order the truck without them and pay 3x to get something heavier duty to protect your wheel wells from when some rocks get kicked up at the mall parking lot.

In no way saying Ford is perfect, but this post is pointless. Lemons happen, even with Toyota, like their rusted through frames or front wheels literally falling off their BEV. That's why warranties exist and when the warranty claims get too significant, you can sell it or lemon law it and get something else. Has no reflect on the overall vehicle as a rule though.
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Old Jan 31, 2023 | 04:06 PM
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I have a 21 XLT powerboost. I love the truck. I agree that every brand has their own demons to work out in their trucks. I keep tabs on a tundra forum (because I was looking to see how the new roll out was going to go). The turbo issue seems to be solved. Nobody reporting anything for a few months. The rear axel seems to have been taken care of (they use a higher torque spec on the bolts now). Everyone's complaints focus on looks and the fit and finish on the truck. Plus they complain about pretty much all the same stuff that gets complained about here. The biggest thing with the new hybrid of the tundra is that it doesn't get as good of mileage as the powerboost and they have no generator on board.
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Old Jan 31, 2023 | 04:37 PM
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I have a 21 XLT powerboost. I love the truck. I agree that every brand has their own demons to work out in their trucks. I keep tabs on a tundra forum (because I was looking to see how the new roll out was going to go). The turbo issue seems to be solved. Nobody reporting anything for a few months. The rear axel seems to have been taken care of (they use a higher torque spec on the bolts now). Everyone's complaints focus on looks and the fit and finish on the truck. Plus they complain about pretty much all the same stuff that gets complained about here. The biggest thing with the new hybrid of the tundra is that it doesn't get as good of mileage as the powerboost and they have no generator on board.
Yeah I have to say I was super surprised when they revealed the truck and the specs on their Hybrid setup. Toyota is still kind of hybrids in most other categories, but their hybrid implementation on the truck just made no sense. It produces a lot of power, but in an overweight truck so no benefit there, fuel mileage wasn't anything special, and as you said no generator functionality.

The PowerBoost has added complexity over other engine options, may be more trouble down the road in one way or another, but at least we are getting tangible daily benefits of having it. Getting the hybrid in the Tundra just seems like throwing money away and still adding that complexity. Given that Toyota had about a year from the PowerBoost release to throw in something unique even if last minute, was just such a half thought out attempt. But I feel like that has been their weak point in the Tundra for a few generations. They want so bad to chase some of those huge sales numbers and high profit margins the big 3 get on half tons, and they arguably have some good ideas, but it always feels half baked.
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