Originally Posted by Shadycoh

Well if you find a dealer that will give you a quote on your trade a year or 2 in advance let me know.

Originally Posted by ClassicCity

I think the Lightning is a home run and perfect for 99% of everyone. Even with a 300 mile range max, that’s incredibly adequate. The majority of people don’t commute that in a week, especially not in a day, and those that do aren’t in the market for an EV yet anyway. So realistically you’d only be charging ONCE or twice a week for a FULL charge. So let’s say your to work and back commute is 20 miles one way. You plug it up every night to charge like advertised, and it would have plenty of time to top off while you slept. You wouldn’t have to worry about range at all. It’d literally be full every morning. Now obviously if you tow heavy loads hundreds of miles at a time very frequently, this truck isn’t for you. I’m not sure why people are quick to flame it because they try to think up XYZ scenarios where it’ll fail. I’m sure any V8/Ecoboost owner could do the exact same thing in scenarios where an i4 would fail... bottom line is, it’s not THE replacement for the current F150, and it isn’t meant to be. But it’s a hell of an I.C.E. breaker. And I for one, am super excited about it.

Originally Posted by 7cbreeze

Oh my oh My .. Where to start,, First Haters ,,, really so before anyone has a chance to say squat you go to name calling, not a great way to get any other ideas... Now For the Idea ,,I believe Tesla started out this Idea of swap out of battery . It was way to expensive and the automation to make it so added a large cost.. Also the last time I looked a Tesla battery on a model S weighs hundreds of pounds.. The next Idea is not to own a car just use what you need and leave it at a charge station for the next person just lease it ,,, such a nice egalitarian idea...NOT,, UTOPIA is only a figment of some commie professor pushing this crap on american youth.. Critical thinking is becoming rare,, sadly

Originally Posted by redd7188

How many is Ford going to build?

Originally Posted by LoneWolfTrucker

This is what the EV engineers I've talk to have said. Today, to fit the battery into the vehicle architecture, they entire frame platform of the vehicle is the battery. So you'd essentially be swapping out the bottom of the vehicle in order to do this today. This is why I responded above to this idea that we are decades away from this. At least a decade away.

Originally Posted by Chipsky

The conversion rate for pre-orders is low and only meant to gauge initial throughput. They'll build some percentage of those along with the trim baseline. As things get closer, they'll start to solidify the pre-orders with contracts to see where their conversion estimate stands. Then they'll adopt existing channels and let lot demand inform production from that point... summer of 2022 or whatever they quoted.

Originally Posted by b-real

Read today that Ford has 70k pre-orders, and that they calculate that 400k of the 1M F150s they sell each year are to people who don't use their trucks as trucks, so for those claiming that the Lightning will meet the needs of 99% of current F150 owners, I would venture to say that Ford themselves only think the Lightning will work for 50% of current F150 owners at best. Still, if they could sell 100k Lightnings a year that would be huge.

Originally Posted by b-real

Read today that Ford has 70k pre-orders, and that they calculate that 400k of the 1M F150s they sell each year are to people who don't use their trucks as trucks, so for those claiming that the Lightning will meet the needs of 99% of current F150 owners, I would venture to say that Ford themselves only think the Lightning will work for 50% of current F150 owners at best. Still, if they could sell 100k Lightnings a year that would be huge.

Originally Posted by Chipsky

Agreed, that would be a lot of sales. I also imagine that Ford doesn't want to undermine all existing sales. While they may see a migration over the next decade to more electric vehicles, I can't imagine that happing very fast. Regarding the 99% vs the 50%... human nature is going to play a major role. There are those who don't realize that the specifications, should they ultimately be accurate, would serve almost all their needs. Then there are those who don't WANT to realize that is the case... and ultimately, those who it actually doesn't serve well at all.

Originally Posted by LoneWolfTrucker

That 40% is a 2030 target. Plus they don't sell 1M F150s, they sell 1M F series. Of which 800-900k are F150s. So I think his 99% is even lower than the 50% Ford thinks.