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Old Dec 15, 2025 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by texasbass1
I own a 2018 with the 5.0 which I bought in 2020 and decided on the 5.0 because of less moving parts and the turbo lag. I tow and haul a truck camper so I wanted a motor with the power to haul it all. Good luck with your purchase. BTW, I've had no issues with mine at all.
Guessing you have never towed with the 3.5l, there is no turbo lag. Do you know which motor has the largest towing capacity?
Old Dec 15, 2025 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Captainshotgun
If you live somewhere where your truck is subject to road salt, the turbos are subject to rusting, and they also ingest the salt spray and dust thru the air intake. The first thing I did to mine was add the K&N intake System.
To combat supposed salt spray intake (explain how this makes it past the filter) you put a worse filtering media in (that explains it). Not sure how turbo's would survive compressing salt without destroying themselves, but what do I know.
Old Dec 15, 2025 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wkohn
Any engine that has a turbo needs special treatment. Synthetic oil always. It needs to be cooled down after every run. Never use the start stop feature with a turbo. Turbos are expensive to replace. The majority of Ford Techs choose the V8.
Just...wrong on all counts, well except for synthetic oil, which is really want should be put in any motor.

Funny how when trying to get your Fords serviced, many feel that the tech's are not the brightest bulbs, except if they tell you something you want to agree with.

These turbo's are not from the 90's.
Old Dec 15, 2025 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wkohn
Any engine that has a turbo needs special treatment. Synthetic oil always. It needs to be cooled down after every run. Never use the start stop feature with a turbo. Turbos are expensive to replace. The majority of Ford Techs choose the V8.
Special treatment? Like 10 thousand mile intervals on oil changes? At the dealer with Motorcraft synthetic blend?

The kind of treatment that netted the guy almost 400,000 miles on a 2.7?

Search it out on the other forum.

I just get a kick out of the turbo fear.

The guys right. It ain’t 1979.

Most hear fear the dealers in the worst way, but gobble up engine info from the very folks we hope never see or touch our tucks.
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[QUOTE=wkohn;7828389. It needs to be cooled down after every run.[/QUOTE]

Another good one.
Haven’t heard about the liquid cooled exhaust manifolds on the 2.7??

Once again, it’s not 1979.
Old Dec 15, 2025 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wkohn
Any engine that has a turbo needs special treatment. Synthetic oil always. It needs to be cooled down after every run. Never use the start stop feature with a turbo. Turbos are expensive to replace. The majority of Ford Techs choose the V8.
Originally Posted by thiggins
Which part? Be specific and avoid attacking.
Every part.

Modern turbo engines don't need special treatment. Synthetic oil is better, not "always" required. Being cooled down after every run is from the distant past of oil cooled turbos, it was required after hard runs because the oil could coke in a hot turbo. Modern water cooled turbos do not need this and cooling down (for example) a 2.7 Ecoboost would be no different than cooling down a 5.0 Coyote.. *** has nothing to do with turbos. Turbos are not expensive. Most Ford techs are ignorant.
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Originally Posted by TopOMichXL
Another good one.
Haven’t heard about the liquid cooled exhaust manifolds on the 2.7??

Once again, it’s not 1979.
I wish I hadn’t heard about these.

The exhaust manifolds are a primary fatigue failure point due to thermal cycling between the aluminum cylinder head and the cast iron manifold (or in this case, the manifold is integral to the aluminum head and bolts up to the iron turbo housing). Developing cracking in the manifolds is common across many engine families.

Ford’s bright idea to run coolant through the manifolds – done for the sake of faster warm up for cold start emissions, not turbo protection – means that when those cracks form the symptom isn’t the harmless ticking that you get on any other engine but instead a coolant leak into the exhaust stream where it will shortly poison the cats and O2 sensors.

The cherry on the top of this idiotic design is that what ought to be a wear item that’s a couple hundred bucks and can be swapped out in an afternoon is a complete head replacement at near $4,000 for the part and 25 book hours to put it in.
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Originally Posted by aspade
I wish I hadn’t heard about these.

The exhaust manifolds are a primary fatigue failure point due to thermal cycling between the aluminum cylinder head and the cast iron manifold (or in this case, the manifold is integral to the aluminum head and bolts up to the iron turbo housing). Developing cracking in the manifolds is common across many engine families.

Ford’s bright idea to run coolant through the manifolds – done for the sake of faster warm up for cold start emissions, not turbo protection – means that when those cracks form the symptom isn’t the harmless ticking that you get on any other engine but instead a coolant leak into the exhaust stream where it will shortly poison the cats and O2 sensors.

The cherry on the top of this idiotic design is that what ought to be a wear item that’s a couple hundred bucks and can be swapped out in an afternoon is a complete head replacement at near $4,000 for the part and 25 book hours to put it in.
I think you are referring to 4 cylinder ecoboosts, not V6.
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Originally Posted by tsigwing
Just...wrong on all counts, well except for synthetic oil, which is really want should be put in any motor.

Funny how when trying to get your Fords serviced, many feel that the tech's are not the brightest bulbs, except if they tell you something you want to agree with.

These turbo's are not from the 90's.
I'm sure there are good Ford techs out there. Somewhere. I'm not sure I've encountered one. I've had them slash the leather on my steering wheel, leave greasy tools in my backseat, crack my drain plug on a Mustang. One of the guys ran into another vehicle in the parking lot in my truck and a few other things I'm sure I've forgotten. The best one is when a Ford dealership service department told me they didn't know how to align my truck after installing a leveling kit for me. Their excuse was that the 2015's had just come out and were too new to align. (They had been out for several months by that point.)
Old Dec 15, 2025 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by aspade
I wish I hadn’t heard about these.

The exhaust manifolds are a primary fatigue failure point due to thermal cycling between the aluminum cylinder head and the cast iron manifold (or in this case, the manifold is integral to the aluminum head and bolts up to the iron turbo housing). Developing cracking in the manifolds is common across many engine families.

Ford’s bright idea to run coolant through the manifolds – done for the sake of faster warm up for cold start emissions, not turbo protection – means that when those cracks form the symptom isn’t the harmless ticking that you get on any other engine but instead a coolant leak into the exhaust stream where it will shortly poison the cats and O2 sensors.

The cherry on the top of this idiotic design is that what ought to be a wear item that’s a couple hundred bucks and can be swapped out in an afternoon is a complete head replacement at near $4,000 for the part and 25 book hours to put it in.
At the very least, please try to stay on the topic of 5.0 vs 2.7 EB. Which is what this thread is about.

Exhaust manifold cracking is not common on the 2.7. Never been an issue.

Thats like me saying the 5.0 is problematic because the 5.4 3v had a few big issues.



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