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Old Dec 11, 2022 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by harley0328
Looks like front and rear refresh for 24

https://fordauthority.com/2022/12/20...irst-time/amp/
That would be a welcoming change!!
Maybe the 2024 will look like the front end parts actually belong together.
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Old Dec 11, 2022 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sky11
What I really wish for 2024 model:
- resolve BMS/battery deep sleep issues (and offer Lithium 12v battery option if they have to; use that weight savings to make main lithium battery a bit bigger)
- get AC to actually work properly
- make transmission to shift smoothly within all 10 speeds
- get rid of halogen headlights (all trims should pass IISA headlight test: https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...022#headlights )
- find a way to make Hybrid battery bigger without significantly compromising cargo capacity
- offer factory lift kit (FX4 v2) - just like Toyota started offering

With regards to battery size, there's a reason conventional hybrid batteries are all about this 1-1.5kWh range and it's that most drive cycles really wouldn't benefit from a larger battery that has no external charge capability. Every bit of energy in that battery comes from the gas tank with the only way to actually store energy is to intentionally run the engine to charge the battery or use regenerative braking to recover energy from the motion of the vehicle. By definition, the hybrid system is going to operate on a net neutral state of charge and will be used for load peak shaving, both on the charge and discharge side. I'm not sure a larger battery would have any benefit in terms of regular driving and would have a detriment to additional weight and cost. Anecdotally, in my Powerboost, I have yet to run into a situation where I couldn't hit a 100% on the regenerative braking score they give you. If I truly am recovering as much as possible given system losses for any particular stop, a larger battery will not help me there.
I would love to see a PHEV F150 come and told my salesman that that's the only thing that could get me in the door sooner to trade-in my truck. Unfortunately, given the current development of BEVs and the fact that a PHEV is effectively two powertrains with all the complexity that comes with having both a conventional ICE and a BEV rolled into one, I don't see a PHEV F150 being offered any time soon (or ever). The cost would simply be too high. Mid range Powerboost XLTs are already in the $60k range. Make that a PHEV and I bet you'd be pushing $75-80k.



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Old Dec 11, 2022 | 10:36 AM
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Fix the turning radius. It's my main complaint about the truck, transmission second.
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Old Dec 11, 2022 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by redd7188
Ford had the first modular tailgate and I'm not sure what they could do better besides make the step a little sturdier. The grab handle and step are the only things I find useful on GM tailgate and Ford already had that. The Ram door barn style tailgate was already used on the Lincoln Blackwood so that's nothing new.
The Blackwood's tailgate only opened to the sides. The Ram's opens both to the sides and down, which makes me wonder how strong that tailgate is when you put any kind of weight on it, like when people carry their ATVs with the rear wheels sitting only on the tailgate.
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Old Dec 11, 2022 | 05:41 PM
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For will probably do something brilliant and make the tailgate open up. Then add 6” more inches of rake and u can stand under it when it rains
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Old Dec 11, 2022 | 08:05 PM
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Important update. Due to parts shortages, all changes are being deleted without any credit being given.
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 01:24 AM
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Would not be surprised if the tailgate from the new super duty migrates over to the F150 refresh , that incorporates proximity sensors and a camera mounted in the tailgate. (so when you have the tailgate open your camera isn't useless and just pointed towards the ground and you also retain parking aid sensor functionality)

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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by over2000lbs
Would not be surprised if the tailgate from the new super duty migrates over to the F150 refresh , that incorporates proximity sensors and a camera mounted in the tailgate. (so when you have the tailgate open your camera isn't useless and just pointed towards the ground and you also retain parking aid sensor functionality)
Always wondered why there was not a better alternative to that
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 03:42 PM
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Looks like dual exhaust as well


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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 08:32 PM
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About 2 years ago I saw a patent application from Ford for a tailgate that was in 3 sections. It had 2 barn doors like the Lincoln had but it also had a 3rd middle door that dropped down and created a step. Sort of like a drop down stairway. Perhaps the 2024 will have that. That would explain the camouflaged tailgate in the spy photos
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