2024 Refresh
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From: Orange County, CA, and Tijuana, BC
We certainly had great tailgates back then. Before my grandmother bought the Ford Grand Marquis, she had a 1972 Chevrolet Caprice wagon.. the electric tailgate went under the station wagon. I thought it was the coolest **** ever.
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The forgotten tailgate war. As the article says, it was a great innovation that the other automakers copied.
https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/...agic-doorgate/
https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/...agic-doorgate/
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From: Orange County, CA, and Tijuana, BC
The forgotten tailgate war. As the article says, it was a great innovation that the other automakers copied.
https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/...agic-doorgate/
https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/...agic-doorgate/
And... a St. Bernard in that advertisement.. bad marketing.. it made the station wagon look so tiny, ha ha ha!
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From: Concord, NC
Had an interesting thought last night while checking out a 2024 S650 product test mule a friend has from their place of work. Has the Gen 4 coyote naturally.
For those who have followed closely say the last 20 years, this latest generation of coyote release seems out of character in regards to F-150 and Mustang GT.
- 2004 F-150 debuted the 5.4 3V. The rest of the SUVS, Mustang GT, Expedition, Super Duty got the 4.6, 5.4, and 6.8 3V's in 2005. Only one year delay.
- 2011 - 2014 both the S197 Mustang and F-150 had the Gen 1 coyote
- 2015-2017 both the S550 and F-150 had Gen 2 Coyote.
- 2018 - 2020 F-150 had Gen 3 Coyote. But the S550 carried the Gen 3 to 2023. This naturally may be due to the S650 starting as a 2024 model, but still is a 3 year gap.
- 2021 F-150 has what everyone is calling the Gen 4 coyote.
Do we think that means Ford will keep this latest Gen 5.0 around longer than usual in the F-150? If you observe what I outlined above, that's out of character for the past couple of decades. My hope is yes, as it seems to be showing less issues the past 3 years vs the 18-20 run of coyotes in the F150's. It feels like Ford has spent the past decade with a lot of changes and as a buyer, it would be nice to have something stick around that seems "proven" for a bit.
For those who have followed closely say the last 20 years, this latest generation of coyote release seems out of character in regards to F-150 and Mustang GT.
- 2004 F-150 debuted the 5.4 3V. The rest of the SUVS, Mustang GT, Expedition, Super Duty got the 4.6, 5.4, and 6.8 3V's in 2005. Only one year delay.
- 2011 - 2014 both the S197 Mustang and F-150 had the Gen 1 coyote
- 2015-2017 both the S550 and F-150 had Gen 2 Coyote.
- 2018 - 2020 F-150 had Gen 3 Coyote. But the S550 carried the Gen 3 to 2023. This naturally may be due to the S650 starting as a 2024 model, but still is a 3 year gap.
- 2021 F-150 has what everyone is calling the Gen 4 coyote.
Do we think that means Ford will keep this latest Gen 5.0 around longer than usual in the F-150? If you observe what I outlined above, that's out of character for the past couple of decades. My hope is yes, as it seems to be showing less issues the past 3 years vs the 18-20 run of coyotes in the F150's. It feels like Ford has spent the past decade with a lot of changes and as a buyer, it would be nice to have something stick around that seems "proven" for a bit.
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Man...only the looks a mother could love. F.U.G.L.Y! Hopefully it looks better in person. That light design makes me think of a Silverado...almost. I wonder whether the front turn signal will be sequential LED like some of the new GMC and Toyota trucks.
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1975 Ford LTD multifunction tailgate
https://youtu.be/NpVn238SbYs
https://youtu.be/NpVn238SbYs
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The Mark LT and the Lincoln Blackwood were two different things...
The Mark LT was offered 2002-2003 on the '97-03 generation trucks, and also '06-07 on the '04-08 generation trucks.
The Lincoln Blackwood was only offered in 2002.
The Mark LT was a gussied up F150, the '02-03 had a distinctively different looking front end from the F150. The '06-07 looked very much like the standard F150, only a different grille, slightly different headlights, and tail lights.
The blackwood had the two-piece barn-door style tailgate, the Mark LT never did, even on the '02-03 version.
The Mark LT was offered 2002-2003 on the '97-03 generation trucks, and also '06-07 on the '04-08 generation trucks.
The Lincoln Blackwood was only offered in 2002.
The Mark LT was a gussied up F150, the '02-03 had a distinctively different looking front end from the F150. The '06-07 looked very much like the standard F150, only a different grille, slightly different headlights, and tail lights.
The blackwood had the two-piece barn-door style tailgate, the Mark LT never did, even on the '02-03 version.
they made 06-08 mark lt in the us and Mexico
and 09-14 mark lt in Mexico only exactly same as platinum with different emblems
