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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 12:36 PM
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You can look in this other thread to see if the failures you have encountered are listed here:
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/stuff...d-fail-532900/

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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 01:05 PM
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What was the point of this?
To use this as an excuse to talk about himself, I presume.
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 02:28 PM
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 02:31 PM
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Ok I'm calling BS on your "impressive resume". If you had any sales experience then you would know that you do not buy an STX and hope to get a long list of standard options as this varies by trim level. There is nothing wrong with an STX, but people that buy them are looking for less equipment at a better price. And if you did race then you would be familiar with the saying "if you wanna play you gotta pay".

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Old Dec 14, 2022 | 06:53 AM
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I’m genuinely curious what you consider engineering blunders on these trucks. Sure, they aren’t perfect and there may be a few engineering escapes. Please keep in mind that this latest generation of F-150 is considerably more complicated than prior generations.

Also, Ford doesn’t mess around with their cash cow without serious thought. Removed features were likely debated ad nauseam by engineering, management, marketing, and profit and loss teams. Whether you agree or not, feature packaging is very intentional.

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Old Dec 19, 2022 | 05:42 AM
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Well for one thing, the battery / charging system has some obvious design flaws. There’s no way that a modern vehicle should require its owner to purchase and use an external battery charger simply because the owner commits the fatal sin of not driving the vehicle often enough, or long enough. To me, that’s just unacceptable.
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Old Dec 19, 2022 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulGrun
Well for one thing, the battery / charging system has some obvious design flaws. There’s no way that a modern vehicle should require its owner to purchase and use an external battery charger simply because the owner commits the fatal sin of not driving the vehicle often enough, or long enough. To me, that’s just unacceptable.

Modern vehicles have a lot of systems that are computer controlled. These computers use energy and drain the batteries. I have a battery tender for my Harley that I bought off of Amazon for $79 and it works well especially in the winter when I cannot ride. If you don't want to spend the money for one then start your truck and let it run for 20 minutes once a week. Or better yet get out of the house and take a 15 minute drive once a week.

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Old Dec 19, 2022 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulGrun
Well for one thing, the battery / charging system has some obvious design flaws. There’s no way that a modern vehicle should require its owner to purchase and use an external battery charger simply because the owner commits the fatal sin of not driving the vehicle often enough, or long enough. To me, that’s just unacceptable.
Totally agree, spend $ 70 thou on a vehicle and then have to purchase a battery tender is a design flaw.
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Old Dec 19, 2022 | 09:41 AM
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I had a long drawn out post typed up defending engineers because marketing probably wanted all the electric features but it probably wouldn't land well.

This problem is only going to get worse in my opinion. Forscan was really the biggest deciding factor in my F-150 purchase. At least we have some ability to change software settings from Ford to help with these issues. From all the long lead times for dealer service and parts, I wanted some ability to fix myself. I am a realist, I know that I have faster resolution to issues if I fix myself if parts don't need replaced.
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Old Dec 19, 2022 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JHoosier
Modern vehicles have a lot of systems that are computer controlled. These computers use energy and drain the batteries. I have a battery tender for my Harley that I bought off of Amazon for $79 and it works well especially in the winter when I cannot ride. If you don't want to spend the money for one then start your truck and let it run for 20 minutes once a week. Or better yet get out of the house and take a 15 minute drive once a week.
We have a Rav4 hybrid drive it about 1 time every 2 months. I don’t have to jump it or have a trickle charger attached. So I will agree there is a flaw somewhere
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