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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 09:56 AM
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Sorry but your statement about 87 octane is just plain wrong. That was from my 2015 owners manual.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tsigwing
Sorry but your statement about 87 octane is just plain wrong. That was from my 2015 owners manual.
I have more faith in livernois than Ford.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 10:25 AM
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I am not doubting their abilities at all, but making a blanket statement (especially saying that about Ford) is irresponsible and just wrong. If anything, FORD specifically says to NOT use any other octane.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 10:44 AM
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There has never been a TDI engine, or any type of power adder application that recommends utilizing regular fuel. If you look at all of their advertising materials they only advertise and recommend 91 or better. The factory file actually will pull power when the AKI of 87 is calculated. You can choose to believe this or not, but it is a factual statement.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 11:02 AM
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Tough crowd these days.

I will stick with my original post - if you guys can get almost 350hp at the rear wheels of a PICKUP truck from a teeny-tiny 2.7L v6 engine that is truly amazing.

Amazing that Ford built it right & Amazing that your tune can beef it up so much. Technology will never cease to amaze.

We can get into an Octane war just like we get into oil wars (Castrol 20w50 all day!!) but in the end - the results are the same - almost 350hp.

By the way- saw a Lamborghini the other day & tried to race it. I flored it coming onto the highway & took off like a shot - he saw me accelerate & punched it & was off like a bullet - I was doing 90 & this goof was pulling away from me so fast you'd think I was going backwards. Power is cool, no matter what form it takes.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 12:22 PM
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@LME - Sorry for all the questions but one more when you have a minute. Do you have any thoughts on why Ford chooses not to go with the 160-degree t-stat from the factory? It seems it would be a win-win if they can get a better tune plus possibly keep the engine running cooler.

I read somewhere else (might have been Livernois that posted it) that Ford does all of their torture testing w/ a 140 degree t-stat. Is it emissions regulations that drives them to use a higher degree t-stat?
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 01:06 PM
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I like the gains but I can never buy a tuner that looks like a video game from the 80's. Come on guys. Can't you guys make a tuner look like SCT Tuner. And I'm not talking about the "tunes". Just the tuner programmer. I just can't buy something that looks like that.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tsigwing
I am not doubting their abilities at all, but making a blanket statement (especially saying that about Ford) is irresponsible and just wrong. If anything, FORD specifically says to NOT use any other octane.
It said to use Premium Gas for performance which correct me if Im wrong but this is in reference to tuning the 2.7 so that is about performance.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jbarron74
I like the gains but I can never buy a tuner that looks like a video game from the 80's. Come on guys. Can't you guys make a tuner look like SCT Tuner. And I'm not talking about the "tunes". Just the tuner programmer. I just can't buy something that looks like that.
I respect your opinion but if all your doing is using the device to load the tunes, want do you have to gain by a different looking user interface?

LME does not require data logging and from what I understand their "My Cal" device loads tunes faster than SCT.

Personally, I'd rather go with a device that doesn't have a pretty interface but that enables access to all 16,000 PCM parameters and that loads tunes in the matter of a few minutes.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MNSportsman
I respect your opinion but if all your doing is using the device to load the tunes, want do you have to gain by a different looking user interface? LME does not require data logging and from what I understand their "My Cal" device loads tunes faster than SCT. Personally, I'd rather go with a device that doesn't have a pretty interface but that enables access to all 16,000 PCM parameters and that loads tunes in the matter of a few minutes.
Personally I'm not going to use something that looks like a $20 item on my $60,000 truck. But that's just me. Don't get me wrong I like the tune. Just not the tuner. It's like putting a 5.0 engine in a Ford Pinto. Lol
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