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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by idrive
Additives are waste of money if you're running top tier gas. Of course there's a lot to be said about the placebo effect.
I would agree with the above statement for the vast majority of additives on the market today but for the ones I have tried Techron worked to fix my problem with the tank sending units. After that I'm just using it to help keep the internal fuel system components clean. So being as though I haven't had any problems while using it and really couldn't prove Techron was the reason I guess I could be having the placebo effect now.
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 02:46 PM
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I had an 01 Crown Vic 4.6 that ran like crap. Tried different additives in the tank, and none seemed to help. Someone mentioned sucking a can of Seafoam through the PCV valve and then shut it off and let soak an hour. I did that, fixed it right up, but smoked like a crack house for 20 minutes. I would not do that on the new engines though.

For my trucks I have been using BP non ethanol 91 octane (until the store closed and could no longer get it) and got great gas mileage and never a worry about a dirty engine. Now been using Mobil 93 octane and I have doubts it is any where near as good as the BP gas, plus it has corn drippins in it. Will see when (if) the truck hits 63K how well it runs.
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 02:51 PM
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As stated, if you use Top Tier gas, then using Techron is a waste of money, even if the prior owner bought lousy gas and didn't use anything. Top Tier gas will clean things out over time if there was any buildup, which there likely wasn't.
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by catchme2
True, but on the 17+ 3.5 and 18+ 2.7, you get DI AND port fuel injection so you get some of that fuel washing over the back of the valves.
Since the OP has a 2016, and the question was about it, none of that matters.....

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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by acdii
I had an 01 Crown Vic 4.6 that ran like crap. Tried different additives in the tank, and none seemed to help. Someone mentioned sucking a can of Seafoam through the PCV valve and then shut it off and let soak an hour. I did that, fixed it right up, but smoked like a crack house for 20 minutes. I would not do that on the new engines though.

For my trucks I have been using BP non ethanol 91 octane (until the store closed and could no longer get it) and got great gas mileage and never a worry about a dirty engine. Now been using Mobil 93 octane and I have doubts it is any where near as good as the BP gas, plus it has corn drippins in it. Will see when (if) the truck hits 63K how well it runs.
GM used to (maybe still does) a product called GM Top Engine Cleaner that worked the same way. 70's era Cadillac's had a terrible carbon buildup problem on the valves and the top of the pistons, too many slow drivers! Some of them were so bad that the carbon would actually build up on the valve seats and partially hold the valve open causing a real rough running engine. Carbon buildup on the pistons would buildup enough to cause the engine to knock. To repair mechanic would start the car raise the RPM's a little to keep it from stalling as the Top Engine Cleaner was poured in the carb. When the quart can was almost empty they poured it faster to stall the engine. The vehicle was then left for an hour or even more to "soak". When soaking the cleaner actually dissolved and softened the carbon deposits. When the car was started and the RPM's raised again the loosed/softened carbon deposits were blown out the exhaust. Results were knock's gone and a smooth running engine. I don't think a product that doesn't use a "soak" process and contain a chemical to loosen/soften the carbon will clean external fuel system components (backs of valves/tops of pistons for example) nearly as well. That includes Chevron Techron! Some internal fuel system components will benefit differently.
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Napalm
.some people use seafoam wrong. But I'd also recommend it if you are putting anything in your gas tank. It's what I use in all my devices occasionally. That's part of the key - Occasionally. In my DD I do it with my once every 10 month or so oil change (it takes 8.5 quarts of oil - and I replace the filter every 3000 miles regardless.

BUT - I wouldn't waste my time putting it in my ecoboost. Because it's a DI motor. Direct Injection. 1/3 the benefit of fuel tank additive is the cleaning of the back of the intake valves and the spark plugs to a lesser degree. In a DI engine this will not happen.

another 1/3 of the effect of a tank additive is to clean the injectors so they atomize correctly. In a standard low pressure injection system this does help. DI engines run at such high pressures the additive in the fuel dosen't really clean the injectors. ANd the injectors honestly don't get that dirty - because the pressure is so high they are sort of self cleaning. This is not to say DI injectors can't foul up - they can. But it's far more rare and often it's the result of poor lubrication or poor injector design.

Finally what it can do for you is help clean the tank pump and helps to nullify some of the water vapor and other stuff in the fuel tank and lines. Which you wouldn't get if you A) drive though a tank full approximately weekly and /or B) use a quality grade of gasoline. Note I don't say a Top Tier gasoline. Rant for another time but often the gas you get from the top tier places and what you get at Kroger or wallmarx is from the same refinery - minus some of the additives Exxon or BP puts in their gas. Which if you honestly don't need.

Now the techorn in a can sold at autozone etc - is good stuff too and I know people that use it. It's OK - again I wouldn't bother wasting my time. I would however in an ecoboost run 93 octane gas in it - when the Outside air temp runs over 85F

In the newest Ecoboost that run both DI and MPI (Multi- Port Injection) then I would run a can of seafoam through it (in the tank only none of that pour it down the throttle body . . . . . ) about once per oil change or once per year - depending on your use
What about colder than 85? The majority of the year it's under 50 here..
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 03:47 PM
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I only use top tier gas unless I absolutely can't. I plan on running some Berryman B12 Chemtool through my 2018 every 2000 miles. I use it in my lawn mowers as well. Since my 2018 is both port and direct I think it will benefit. It also devolves moisture in the fuel tank and gas lines. I do the same for my wife's Honda minivan which just hit 60000 miles and it runs strong. Every 2000 miles it gets a bottle.

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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by David Jones
Since the OP has a 2016, and the question was about it, none of that matters.....
This is an information sharing website. Take your arrogance elsewhere.
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 05:01 PM
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You know guys a big part of Techron is keeping the injectors clean.Techron is the top tier additive package added by Chevron. Top tier gas was a creation of the automotive industry to meet a higher fuel standard for keeping the top end of motors and fuel injectors clean

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...h-extra-price/
http://www.techron.com/
https://www.toptiergas.com/
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by scsu74
What about colder than 85? The majority of the year it's under 50 here..
It's more a matter of the tuning and cleanlieness of the burn in the cylinder. so under around 85F - or lower then I use 87 octane or 89 octane gasoline. Why - colder IAT (Intake Air Temperatures) let the engine lean out a little as it works with the 87 octane gas. Octane rating is all about knock and the way the engine runs on 87 is that it starts by enriching the mixture with IAT and at some point it begins to retard the spark timing - and in the ecoboost engine you can vary the valve timing as well as reduce the boost if there is less load. All of which can contribute to running richer to protect the engine which contributes to potential soot buildup.

Colder temps - 87 octane matters not. Hotter temps 93 octane helps significantly. But as I remind people - matter of area. I live in the midsouth USA where in the summer we will have 90 degrees F and 80+ % humidity. Ecoboost wants 93. I gain MPG when I move to it and the engine runs better - however I get the same mpg in January on 87 octane.

Hope that makes sense.

Originally Posted by catchme2
This is an information sharing website. Take your arrogance elsewhere.
No offense but he was attempting to direct the information to the question of the thread. TO be fair for this OP the multiport fuel injection on the new ecoboost doesn't help him right here - unless he's buying a new 2018 model.
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