Performance in Snow
I’m in Northern Wi, get around fine with a 2WD RCSB with Cooper Discoverer LT winter tires and no weight in the bed. Only have to use the rear locker when I’m out playing in places I shouldn’t be.
I had the Pirelli Scorpions on my 07 and they seriously sucked on snow. I don't remember which version but man I could spin all four tires at the same time and go nowhere. Swapped them out for Michelins ATRs of some kind and the problem was solved.
I'm sure the weight has something to do with it, and I agree, looking at them, you'd think they'd be better than they are.
Harder compound? Less flexible? My first experience was not good. My second experience, two days ago, was about the same. I've yet to have it out on the road, and really don't look forward to the 200 mile trip downstate for Christmas. I might just cleanout my little Ranger and drive it.
My wife knows I like to change out tires etc. I told her how bad these things are, and of course she thought I was just exaggerating. In the past, when I'd change out stock tires, I'd sell them. I'm afraid if I even gave these POS away, I'd be in a lawsuit suing me for voluntary endangerment.
Sarcasm in that last sentence.
Harder compound? Less flexible? My first experience was not good. My second experience, two days ago, was about the same. I've yet to have it out on the road, and really don't look forward to the 200 mile trip downstate for Christmas. I might just cleanout my little Ranger and drive it.
My wife knows I like to change out tires etc. I told her how bad these things are, and of course she thought I was just exaggerating. In the past, when I'd change out stock tires, I'd sell them. I'm afraid if I even gave these POS away, I'd be in a lawsuit suing me for voluntary endangerment.

Sarcasm in that last sentence.

Thank you, good to know. I got a little more nervous when I started hauling around kids rather than just my self.We used to live up in Marquette Michigan and had no troubles there with all seasons. Start early, go slow, the plows are fabulous and they use a lot of sand instead of salt.
I don't do any off-roading. The most I would be doing is pulling my small enclosed cargo trailer across a campground. That said, with snow in mind, would you guys go w/ the Michelin Defender LTX M/S highway tire or the Michelin LTX A/T 2 tire? Its not like I live in Michigan or Maine, I just want something better then these Goodyear Fortitudes.
I don't do any off-roading. The most I would be doing is pulling my small enclosed cargo trailer across a campground. That said, with snow in mind, would you guys go w/ the Michelin Defender LTX M/S highway tire or the Michelin LTX A/T 2 tire? Its not like I live in Michigan or Maine, I just want something better then these Goodyear Fortitudes.
You might also look for a deal on take-off GY Wranger Adventure - they are an A/T tire too, like I've mentioned before.
-John
Taking the focus off tires for moment, to general "performance" what are you guys doing to winterize your truck? I noticed the OEM washer fluid freezes at relatively warm temperatures. The dealership told me it was a hassle to drain and I should just try to run through it quick and replace it.
I used to put some silicone grease on the weather seals and put on a good coat of wax, but I really don't think that is necessary, especially as often as I change trucks.
Back to tires, I think I will deflate about 2 pounds psi, so 31 all around for my truck ( just a guess as the wheels and tires are not stock )
Oh, I forgot, I upgraded the wiper blades to, they were rather weak sauce. Anyone using a block heater? I don't have indoor parking
I used to put some silicone grease on the weather seals and put on a good coat of wax, but I really don't think that is necessary, especially as often as I change trucks.
Back to tires, I think I will deflate about 2 pounds psi, so 31 all around for my truck ( just a guess as the wheels and tires are not stock )
Oh, I forgot, I upgraded the wiper blades to, they were rather weak sauce. Anyone using a block heater? I don't have indoor parking
Last edited by Iconoblast; Dec 21, 2017 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Addend
Taking the focus off tires for moment, to general "performance" what are you guys doing to winterize your truck? I noticed the OEM washer fluid freezes at relatively warm temperatures. The dealership told me it was a hassle to drain and I should just try to run through it quick and replace it.
I used to put some silicone grease on the weather seals and put on a good coat of wax, but I really don't think that is necessary, especially as often as I change trucks.
Back to tires, I think I will deflate about 2 pounds psi, so 31 all around for my truck ( just a guess as the wheels and tires are not stock )
Oh, I forgot, I upgraded the wiper blades to, they were rather weak sauce. Anyone using a block heater? I don't have indoor parking
I used to put some silicone grease on the weather seals and put on a good coat of wax, but I really don't think that is necessary, especially as often as I change trucks.
Back to tires, I think I will deflate about 2 pounds psi, so 31 all around for my truck ( just a guess as the wheels and tires are not stock )
Oh, I forgot, I upgraded the wiper blades to, they were rather weak sauce. Anyone using a block heater? I don't have indoor parking
Winterizing my truck is easy: Good wax in October (Meguiar's ULW), which helps the snow fall off the truck all winter long
, winter windshield wiper fluid, tires at 35psi (# from the door jamb sticker), make sure my truck stuff (come-along strap, shackles, etc.) is in a box in the bed, top off the gas tank a day or two before snow is expected, make sure ice scraper is easy to get to.Pretty easy stuff.
-John
No need for a block heater. (I park outside too, never a problem starting)
Winterizing my truck is easy: Good wax in October (Meguiar's ULW), which helps the snow fall off the truck all winter long
, winter windshield wiper fluid, tires at 35psi (# from the door jamb sticker), make sure my truck stuff (come-along strap, shackles, etc.) is in a box in the bed, top off the gas tank a day or two before snow is expected, make sure ice scraper is easy to get to.
Pretty easy stuff.
-John
Winterizing my truck is easy: Good wax in October (Meguiar's ULW), which helps the snow fall off the truck all winter long
, winter windshield wiper fluid, tires at 35psi (# from the door jamb sticker), make sure my truck stuff (come-along strap, shackles, etc.) is in a box in the bed, top off the gas tank a day or two before snow is expected, make sure ice scraper is easy to get to.Pretty easy stuff.
-John










