elptxjc

Simple. Because a DOHC EB (twin turbo) is A LOT more expensive to produce than a super simple (and antiquated) pushrod engine, especially with an iron block . With public companies, it's all about the Benjamins, as you should know.

Mark Miller

Because V-8 people and V-6 Turbo Haters like you wouldn't buy them!!!

todd92

15 years ago, what 1/2 ton truck had as much power, could tow as much and got the gas mileage that a 3.5 Ecoboost does today?

RACarvalho

So If my next truck has an ecoboost on it just because I lease and want to try it for 3 years and return it I will not be an "ecoboost hater"????
You are making a ton of assumption right there man. What I despise greatly is the government interference and lies which the ecoboost is an example of.
I completely despise the government coming and IMPOSING something on the consumers just to exercise power over the people.
I bought a full size truck to tow a 9000lbs camper, does it look like I care too much for the price of gas???
So why should I pay more to have what I don't want????
That is what I despise. You let the Gov. Continue with this trend and soon enough they will start putting more restrictions which will always lead to a situation where you pay more to have less.... That is what I despise.
The only advantage the ecoboost have is low end torque, which Ford could have offered us through a push rod 6.x which would potentially have the same fuel consumption but be way more durable and less expensive....
I used to tow a 6500lbs camper with a SUV that have a 3.0l NA engine designed in early 90s... It would do 10mpg towing.
I bought this truck with the modern V8, 10 speed, direct injection, bla,bla,bla and guess what? Towing the same camper it did the same 10mpg!!!!
So we, the consumer, are paying more to have the same...
The ecoboost we where told, was supposed to be more fuel efficient than the V8 but is not,when you are using the truck as a truck, and can consume more than the V8 is you really enjoy those 470lbf of torque... So you and me where lied to and paid more.... I dispise that.
The ecoboost is good on helping with CAFE , though.....

TopOMichXL

Maybe the V8 and the ecoboost both get crappy mileage when towing. I don’t tow every mile of every day.
With the amount of F150’s on the road, I am glad that a lot of them can get darn good mileage.
So the ecoboost and V8 get the same crappy mileage towing. I’ll take the fantastic mpg and the low end torque of the ecoboost almost every other single day, when not towing. The 2.7 is an amazing engine.
I would not miss the V8, I'm old enough to feel otherwise, but smart enough to acknowledge the future.
Remember when everyone bitched about the government imposing seat-belts on us?

ModularFord

In a few years these arguments will look silly because guess what? The 5.0 and the EcoBoost make similar power and similar MPGs. Both will be fossilized dinosaurs and we will be hopping in our fully electric F-150s with 1000 lb ft of torque at 0 RPM lol.

blkZ28spt

15 years ago, what 1/2 ton truck had as much power, could tow as much and got the gas mileage that a 5.0 [or a GM LS V8] does today?

We need a leap in battery technology before we can even pretend that so many people will drive an electric only vehicle...limited range and time to recharge is a pretty big hurdle. We aren't all bit city apartment renters who never drive outside of our megalopolis, which is where (small) full electrics are clearly a good choice at current/rapidly emerging tech

RACarvalho

I never said that ALL government regulations where wrong. I specifically mentioned " to exercise power over the people".
We do have benefits from seat belt and airbags, but what is the benefit to have a more complicated, more expensive solution to have the same mpg?

ModularFord

Bahaha I’ve driven a 5.0 Windsor, gutless bag of an engine. The 5.0 Coyote could do three stop and go 0-60 runs with 5,000 pounds in tow by the time the ol’ Windsor’s gets to 60 MPH for the first time empty.

The pushrod 5.0 of the nineties was what 200 horsepower? The current OHC 5.0 is what 400 horsepower?

RACarvalho

If there is a modern pipe dream is this idea that electrification will get into full size trucks....
Make the calculation on how much kW you have in 36gal of gas and how much it costs a battery that can hold that and how long it takes to charge it and you will see that we are way far from this. Not only that but how will you transfer energy at a GigaWatts/hour rate safely to charge a hipotetical fast charging battery and where that energy will come from????
In 2017 I went to the Novi (Michigan) "Battery show" to check the new developments in electrification and a company was showing a drop in replacement for 1/2 ton trucks.
Just take engine and transmission and drop their full electric solution.... The cost? $25K only for the conversion..... The range with a full charge? 100 miles.... Payload after the conversion? 500lbs (the battery eats a lot of payload)......
So until someone come up with good solution for all the above, if we are forced to go electric we will be again paying more to have less .......