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Old Dec 15, 2023 | 03:02 PM
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I have a OEM power invertor that that came out of 2015 F150. I am thinking on using it in a vehicle but be able to transfer it to other vehicle, if wanted. The question is, do i have to hook up the wires to the BCM to get it to work? pin 11 and 12. I do not believe the power point on the dash will not have juice to power the invertor, will have run a wire from the battery.


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Old Dec 15, 2023 | 03:58 PM
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Wanting to transfer to other vehicles is a problem unless you provide the same plugin facility other vehicles may not be able to provide power trip-off, plug-in control, lamp indication etc.
Most power ports are not good for more than 20 amps. Check the fuse size in your Owner Manual for power ports.
Be a where of the following;
For 300 watt capacity, the Inverter will draw upwards of 28 to 30 amps, engine running. Engine off at 12.6 Battery volts times 24 amps = 305 watts and must include conversion losses to convert to 110 volts times no more than (3 amp) capability. 110 x 3 = 330 watts.
Note the power difference between engine running and engine off, taken into account. Inverter supply voltage will be different from the battery. Running, the Alternator gets into the act and raises the voltage available.
Then Inverter run time vs its heat has limits for cooling.
Depends on how much power you want and what type load will be plugged in.
If you hack the Inverter well enough , you might get away with it.
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IMO not worth the hassles when you can purchase an after market Inverter and wire two fused heavy enough 12v wire leads and do the same on other vehicles.
Just my opinion for you posted intent.
Good luck.
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Old Dec 16, 2023 | 02:42 AM
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The OEM inverter is a piece of junk modified sine wave inverter.
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 02:43 PM
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I think blugrass is giving good advice.
My inverter does 400 watts - like my older toyota - a simple box fan killed the battery in short order.

If I was serious about having a high current mobile 120VAC source, I would do this: trailer power connector --> hefty 12v battery in bed --> 6 KW inverter --> AC load

Would still need to run engine most of the time...
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Pee
I think blugrass is giving good advice.
My inverter does 400 watts - like my older toyota - a simple box fan killed the battery in short order.

If I was serious about having a high current mobile 120VAC source, I would do this: trailer power connector --> hefty 12v battery in bed --> 6 KW inverter --> AC load

Would still need to run engine most of the time...
What are you running that would need 6KW?
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 04:39 PM
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How bout power outage at the house ??

Electric chainsaw
water/well pump
vibrators for the local gals
etc

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Didn't another member go through a whole long thread about changing the inverter? In the end, I dont remember the output....
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Pee
How bout power outage at the house ??

Electric chainsaw
water/well pump
vibrators for the local gals
etc
You better have a huge battery! I have a 560AH battery in my trailer and powering the house would not last very long.
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 1STtimer
Didn't another member go through a whole long thread about changing the inverter? In the end, I dont remember the output....
I may be wrong but this thread seems like it is about moving an existing OEM converter to another vehicle.
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 03:50 AM
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I suspect the BVM plug ins mainly do battery monitoring and the power on off for the inverter. I would expect that the inverter would be on its own power supply cables other than that. Having that much juice come through the bcm doesn't seem likely.

I installed a 1500w pure sine wave inverter in my truck to run some medical equipment (comprescompressorits been very good. I have to run the truck when i have a large load, but its tucked under the passenger seat and i didnt have to modify anything to get it in place. Just run wires along the existing wire routes in the truck. Pretty clean and sorks well. Sorry I don't know what signals the 11 and 12 pins would be giving, but I'd expect they are mostly on-off signals. Perhaps bench test it giving 12v to one then the other then both and just see how the inverter reacts. Then you can hack it and give it the power it needs or doesn't and add a switch in line if necessary.
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