Madcap57

The question is will the '16 harness connect to an '18 and with the '16 sensor will it work. If so then it sounds like an '18 and a '16 owner with ACC need to pair up to test this without laying out the money for parts that may not work for them.

jpaytoncfd

I seem to remember seeing that both sensors use the same harness. But I think what living it up is saying is you should be able to activate the 2018 ACC (CCM) without the IPMA installed. Ford packages them together but it does not seem to be a requirement to actually have both. Unless I missed something.

OPsDad

Livnitup, I have been "tuned out" of the discussion for a while because I was resigned to not having ACC. I don't care if I get "stop-and-go" only care if I get ACC like it used to be. I do NOT have the harness for the dash panel red light piece. 2018 302a with BLIS, 8-inch screen. 6 months ago I had a parts list etc. that I culled from here, but since I thought a 2018 was a no-go, I didn't keep it.

If I can get this done for ~500 or so, I would roll the dice.

Dave

Livnitup

I have been tuned out for a while also but there was someone with a 2018 who was going to add the old style ACC without stop&go but I don't remember seeing any conclusion to that. It's long been my belief that it should be possible so maybe someone who has been actively following this thread would know if he ever completed it.

jpaytoncfd

I have been keeping an eye on things since I did mine. I have not seen any one attempt to get it working on a 2018 yet. From the Docs livingitup posted awhile back it looks like you should be able to use the correct module for your truck without the IPMA and gain the ACC only, possibly Stop and Go also.

@Livnitup How is firmware updated in these trucks? Are the firmwares VIN locked or is it possible to update my 2015 to 2018 firmware? I assume at minimum my cluster will need to be updated to have the Stop and Go visuals and menu options. I wonder if the steering wheel switches are different.

Livnitup

Updating the firmware requires a specific kind of adapter like a J2534 (not the typical FORScan adapter) and the software to perform it like UCDS or a special non-public version of FORScan that I have. However, there's no firmware updating that needs to take place if you try and get the ACC w/stop & go with object/pedestrian detection working; you need the newer modules. I tried this in my 2016 and was ultimately halted because FORScan didn't have any service procedure for the 2018+ ACC camera calibration. If memory serves me correctly, there was also a different value in BCM that 2018s w/stop & go ACC have that I wasn't able to write to my 2016's BCM so that may have prevented it from working also.

Before attempting this you should realize that to get to the point I was able to get to you'd need: a 2018+ 8" cluster, the new kind of C-CM (and bracket that doesn't fit a 2015-17 bumber), the newer 2018 stop & go IPMA (that requires the special windshield bracket that's not sold separate from a new windshield), and wires run from the new C-CM all the way to the IPMA, you'd also need a different rear view mirror, and custom wiring in the roof harness above the headliner, and after all that you still can't calibrate the IPMA to get any of that to work.

It's a deep and expensive rabbit hole I went down to even get as far as I got and I still don't know whether it would've even worked correctly even if the IPMA calibration procedure could've been run. I also have IDS/FDRS (dealership software) and that software will not run the camera calibration procedure either because it knows a 2015-17 truck shouldn't have come with that so it won't allow the procedure to run.

My advice is to only attempt adding the ACC w/stop & go pedestrian/object detection if you already have a 2018+ truck and only then if you could possible source the C-CM & IPMA from a truck that wrecked where the IPMA calibration had already been done because last I checked FORScan still can't run this calibration procedure.

BierNut

There's a parts list for the 2018's in the 2018 ACC thread here in case you want to give it a go. That post (#41) is also the member that bought all the parts and installed them on a 2018, but last reported ACC not working and hasn't posted since.

Thanks Livinitup, just so I'm clear - will IDS/FDRS fail to run the calibration procedure on a 2018 that didn't come with ACC as well then? You note the calibration failed for you due to the software knowing that a 2015-17 truck wouldn't have the modules, does this mean that it may complete the calibration process on a 2018? My (limited) understanding was that IDS was checking the VIN to see if ACC was installed at the factory, and would not run calibration if the VIN check failed, even on a 2018?

If the camera calibration is tied to model year, not VIN, I might be willing to give it a shot.... I have a 2018 502a w/ tech package. I've been waiting (hoping) for FORScan to add the camera calibration procedure prior to investing in parts.

Livnitup

I think the calibration procedure on IDS/FDRS would work fine on a 2018 even if the truck didn't come with it but I don't have first hand experience to tell you for sure so don't bet the farm on my assumption here.

codygp

So I purchased my 2018 a while back now and was going to add ACC when I had the time and finances to do so. That time is now and I am re-reading the latest couple posts and it sounds like 2018+ ACC might be an issue to add aftermarket. I was under the impression if you had Auto Highbeam then you would be able to add it. Is this still the case? And if not, I might be the willing participant to help figure it out.

2018 F150, 502A, 8in, Stop & Start, Auto Highbeam. DOES NOT HAVE Lane Keeping, Park Assist, or 360 camera.

Lane Keep and ACC were the 2 things i wanted to add. Aside from HDC, which i already added.

TNVOLF150

Hello folks.

I joined this forum after reading a bunch. I appreciate any help anyone can offer.

I purchased a 2015 Ford F150 Lariat with a 5.0l at auction. It had been stolen and recovered. The morons that stole it ran it down through the woods and and beat the truck up all over. They also hit a small tree in the front enough to damage the front bumper including the adaptive cruise control module that was original to the truck. Before installing the module, the cruise didn't work but I didn't get any warnings on the dash. When I plugged in the new module, I still didn't get any warnings nor did the cruise work. I started checking fuses and found that the adaptive cruise fuse (#110 in the under hood box) was blown. I replaced this fuse and things came alive. I got the collision avoidance not operable warning on the dash but the cruise still didn't work.

I have become familiar with forscan and have used it to fix some other things on the truck. I tried to go through the procedures that have been posted earlier in the thread. Most of the settings are already the same as what's been posted here. But, I don't have the CCM module where you put in the hex equivalent of your vin. Should the CCM module display on forscan? If not, why would it not display? I'm not sure if forscan is enough to accomplish the job. Another thing that has been mentioned is an IDS. I assume that's another diagnostic tool? Sort of stuck here and if anyone could help I would appreciate it.