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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamingtaco
Caster and camber on these trucks is adjusted where the lower control arm attaches to the frame. The holes for the lower control arm to frame bolts are slots to permit adjustment. From the factory, a machine adjusts the arm to the correct position during alignment.

To make adjustments without the kits requires brute force. Without the kits, when making an adjustment you can easily go way past where you intended, or it can slide back into it's original position.

The kits use a washer welded offset to nuts to create a cam. The washer fits in a slot in a bracket that is held in place by a hole in the frame. Turning the bolts moves the lower control arm towards or away from the frame. The kits don't give a crap about the tire wanting to stick to the lift, or the suspension trying to settle back to where it was. You turn the bolt head the amount of adjustment you need, it stays there.

Here's a pic of the kit, you can see the protrusion on the part that holds it in position on the frame. You turn the nut, it is forced to slide in the slot. You need two kits per truck as there are two bolts holding each LCA to the frame.




Turning both nuts on one control arm the same amount, sliding both bolts the same direction changes camber only. Doing the same, but in opposite directions changes caster only. Turning just one will change both caster and camber.
by the way today i did an oil change and idk if the engine cover with the leaf is supposed to be like that like i can see some parts its not covering the whole engine and around it, idk if its normal cause ive seen some other ecoboosts that cover more parts, its a 2018 f150 xlt 4wd 2.7l eco


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Old Sep 1, 2020 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Julio Perdomo
ok and how much do they cost and who can install it or how
I got two kits of the MOOG kits off Amazon for $62 total.

I installed mine when I replaced the front shocks, and then took it in for an alignment. If you take the tires off the ground and install one nut/bracket at a time, you can do it without affecting the alignment. I suggest using paint to mark around the bolt head before loosening just in case it moves. Toss a tenner at your alignment tech, he/she should be happy to install them during an alignment.

Your engine cover is correct, it's more for noise abatement than looks. The 3.5 gets an equally lame cover:



You have to get a Raptor to get a decent cover:



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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamingtaco
I got two kits of the MOOG kits off Amazon for $62 total.

I installed mine when I replaced the front shocks, and then took it in for an alignment. If you take the tires off the ground and install one nut/bracket at a time, you can do it without affecting the alignment. I suggest using paint to mark around the bolt head before loosening just in case it moves. Toss a tenner at your alignment tech, he/she should be happy to install them during an alignment.

Your engine cover is correct, it's more for noise abatement than looks. The 3.5 gets an equally lame cover:



You have to get a Raptor to get a decent cover:

ill buy the caster kits before another alignment, what blows my mind bro is the thrust angle being at 0.51 cause before it was centered until now, fking steering a lil crooked on some roads i gotta hold it and sometimes on some roads stays centered, most of the time is crooked, i had someone drive my truck and i followed him if it was dogtracking but it looks normal from behind all i could see was the right front passenger tire which ig is normal cause im the driver behind lol, blows my mind how it could’ve happened.

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Originally Posted by Julio Perdomo
by the way today i did an oil change and idk if the engine cover with the leaf is supposed to be like that like i can see some parts its not covering the whole engine and around it, idk if its normal cause ive seen some other ecoboosts that cover more parts, its a 2018 f150 xlt 4wd 2.7l eco
Off-Road Extreme and TFL tested production 2.7's with similar covers. Yours has a hump at the front that was moved to the left along with a vacuum line. Ford changes engine covers like some of us change underwear.



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Old Sep 4, 2020 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamingtaco
Off-Road Extreme and TFL tested production 2.7's with similar covers. Yours has a hump at the front that was moved to the left along with a vacuum line. Ford changes engine covers like some of us change underwear.


then the cover is fine?
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 01:27 PM
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Looks ok from here. It's not hitting anything, doesn't have the appearance of being mis-matched, and is connected to the engine brackets.

Here's the same cover on a truck one of the mags tested:



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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamingtaco
Check those two measurements I mentioned, they will tell you if you're actually out of thrust spec. Measure to the 16th, if possible.
im gonna fix the steering tmrrw, so basically its going straight with a slightly crooked steering to the left, if i straighten the steering the truck goes to the right, i saw the left tire straight when steering is centered and the right tire pointing out to the right, im gonna lift it up and adjust the tie rods but idk which side to adjust? And i should lock center the steering?
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No need to center the wheel. Adjust the right wheel in just a few spins of the turnbuckle, then drive. One it appears to steer straight, if the front wanders, bring the front of the wheels in an even amount until it goes away.
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Old Nov 2, 2020 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamingtaco
No need to center the wheel. Adjust the right wheel in just a few spins of the turnbuckle, then drive. One it appears to steer straight, if the front wanders, bring the front of the wheels in an even amount until it goes away.
so just park it with the steering crooked like when it drives straight and move the right front tire in a lil until steering is centered while driving
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Yeah, you only need to center the wheel when you've got an alignment system. Tow is adjusted in relation to a centered wheel. You are going to bring in the wheel that is causing the drift without measuring tow angles, so the wheel position doesn't matter.
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