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Nope, he's right.........Last paragraph before the picture.....http://www.bigblocksix.com/Eddie/injectorswap/
But, my 4.9L ran extremely well (had 128K when I got rid of it), I did go to 3.55 gears later with a LS, and it made it pull hills even better (1st seems extremely low after that). Mine was a 4x2 with 33's on it, so 3.55 seemed neccessary. BTW, 12/hr injectors for Ford are grey, the 19/hr injectors are orangish yellow for the F150's. Hope this helps.
Truthfully, I wouldn't have said that If I thought I might be wrong, I wouldn't want to give you guys an opinion
But, my 4.9L ran extremely well (had 128K when I got rid of it), I did go to 3.55 gears later with a LS, and it made it pull hills even better (1st seems extremely low after that). Mine was a 4x2 with 33's on it, so 3.55 seemed neccessary. BTW, 12/hr injectors for Ford are grey, the 19/hr injectors are orangish yellow for the F150's. Hope this helps.
But, my 4.9L ran extremely well (had 128K when I got rid of it), I did go to 3.55 gears later with a LS, and it made it pull hills even better (1st seems extremely low after that). Mine was a 4x2 with 33's on it, so 3.55 seemed neccessary. BTW, 12/hr injectors for Ford are grey, the 19/hr injectors are orangish yellow for the F150's. Hope this helps.
Well, can't be too careful. Terrorist stuff! Exploding underwear, then talkin everybody w/ I-6's into Modding into Gross polluters, installing larger injectors, only to have them confiscated & destroyed by our own Federal government. Diabolical? Sounds crazy & far fetched? I hope so, it's the best I could do off the top of my head. While I've had a bunch of 8's, I've only had 1 injected I-6 back in 87'. Anyway, Good to know. How could I ever have doubted you? (You have to admit, 12 to 19 is a huge leap!)
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http://www.bigblocksix.com/Eddie/injectorswap/
Well, can't be too careful. Terrorist stuff! Exploding underwear, then talkin everybody w/ I-6's into Modding into Gross polluters, installing larger injectors, only to have them confiscated & destroyed by our own Federal government. Diabolical? Sounds crazy & far fetched? I hope so, it's the best I could do off the top of my head. While I've had a bunch of 8's, I've only had 1 injected I-6 back in 87'. Anyway, Good to know. How could I ever have doubted you? (You have to admit, 12 to 19 is a huge leap!)
Well, can't be too careful. Terrorist stuff! Exploding underwear, then talkin everybody w/ I-6's into Modding into Gross polluters, installing larger injectors, only to have them confiscated & destroyed by our own Federal government. Diabolical? Sounds crazy & far fetched? I hope so, it's the best I could do off the top of my head. While I've had a bunch of 8's, I've only had 1 injected I-6 back in 87'. Anyway, Good to know. How could I ever have doubted you? (You have to admit, 12 to 19 is a huge leap!)
, I bet the 4.9L motors would run a bit better with 19 lb/hr like the V8's, but the fuel rail runs so close to the exhaust manifold, that when something is under higher pressure, it's harder to turn to vapor when heat is applied (same concept I use here at work for running the distillation columns, reboilers for heat, vacuum pumps for less pressure), less pressure, easier to vaporize when heat is applied. Hope that helps. Gotta hand it to Ford for thinking of thatI know
, I bet the 4.9L motors would run a bit better with 19 lb/hr like the V8's, but the fuel rail runs so close to the exhaust manifold, that when something is under higher pressure, it's harder to turn to vapor when heat is applied (same concept I use here at work for running the distillation columns, reboilers for heat, vacuum pumps for less pressure), less pressure, easier to vaporize when heat is applied. Hope that helps. Gotta hand it to Ford for thinking of that
, I bet the 4.9L motors would run a bit better with 19 lb/hr like the V8's, but the fuel rail runs so close to the exhaust manifold, that when something is under higher pressure, it's harder to turn to vapor when heat is applied (same concept I use here at work for running the distillation columns, reboilers for heat, vacuum pumps for less pressure), less pressure, easier to vaporize when heat is applied. Hope that helps. Gotta hand it to Ford for thinking of thatLast edited by ymeski56; Feb 6, 2010 at 11:24 AM.
I've spent alot of time working on Boilers (low pressure/125psi) & Vapor recovery/distillation units. By trade, I do commercial/industrial machine repair. Actually, vapor lock was very popular in the early F/I days. "Popular" might not be the right word. If I had a MAF engine, I might consider an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, but MAP's are a little to non negotiating.
If you liked 12 BTDC, you'll love 14 BTDC. If your worried about Ping, run stock Motorcraft Copper cores. They're a cooler range plug & much more forgiving. Heatwise, anything above what's required to effectively ignite the fuel is counterproductive! It's alot easier to avoid the temp Ping threshold, then to drop below it, after it is reached. Especially w/ x2 Plats &/or other exotic alloys. I run my stock Motorcrafts at 16 BTDC, at 80MPH for 700 miles between refills on my Oregon trips (after repairing my cruise control which will make the drive more tolerable & a recent $516. Citation for 15 mph over, I think 80mph for 700 miles is a thing of the past). Also, w/ an Ignition system upgrade, you can stretch your gap which trades intensity (w/ heat byproduct) for spark kernel exposure to effectively Fire. I personally believe, more effectively w/ alot less counteproductive, unnecessary, excess, hard the dispell temperatures within the combustion chambers. That's my 2 cents plus tip!
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I think she might not be running right. My previous truck, 1996 F150, had a 4.9L 5-sp and 2.73 axle code. It could be rolling,say.... maybe 10 mph on dry pavement and when I floored it would scratch the tires for a few seconds, till it revved 1st on out, and it came with 31x10.50 Michelins. Mine didn't seem to be slow till midrange area, maybe 50-75 or so. Both ends of the sped spectrum it seems to run good, top and bottom end speed.
BTW, the fuel pump is in the tank on these models, 1989 down have the inline fuel pump (I think, my 1986 FI 302 had inline fuel pump)
Check the fuel pressure, those trucks have to run higher pressure because the fuel injectors are only 12/lb per hr instead of the 19/lb per hr the v8's have (for vapor lock purposes from what I have read, not sure though)
BTW, the fuel pump is in the tank on these models, 1989 down have the inline fuel pump (I think, my 1986 FI 302 had inline fuel pump)
Check the fuel pressure, those trucks have to run higher pressure because the fuel injectors are only 12/lb per hr instead of the 19/lb per hr the v8's have (for vapor lock purposes from what I have read, not sure though)
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If you liked 12 BTDC, you'll love 14 BTDC. If your worried about Ping, run stock Motorcraft Copper cores. They're a cooler range plug & much more forgiving. Heatwise, anything above what's required to effectively ignite the fuel is counterproductive! It's alot easier to avoid the temp Ping threshold, than to drop below it, after it is reached. Especially w/ x2 Plats &/or other exotic alloys.






