i'm gonna put a hydrogen system in my truck to try and get better gas mileage. for what it costs why not? it'll cost about $100 to buy everything and install it. my friend had it installed in his mazda van and is getting 10MPG better. i can handle gettin 23MPG city. i'm in the research phase of the process but will fill you guys in on the progress. later.

 

I looked into this a little. They had on the news that there was a police department that was going to install a system on 10 cars at a cost of about $1500 each so there has to be something to the science. Let us know what motor your working with and post lots of pic's. Use caution, if you blow up a H generator you will be spending the next week trying to figure out who's backyard your hood is in. Did your friend have to mod the O2 sensors to keep the computer from reading a lean mix. My dad was a science teacher for 30+ years, had one blowup on him when the kids didn't follow the directions correctly. No one really got hurt because the blast was strong enough that the glass structure basicly turned into dust. Well except for the football player who fainted and hit his head.

 

In Ca. the smog test starts w/ a visual inspection. Vehicles found to have emissions sys.'s missing components, or have altered/modified changes made to, are failed specifically for that reason alone, and passing this is prerequisite for the actual testing of the vehicle's emissions being performed. W/o regulatory change allowing special circumstances to permit that prerequisite to be waved, the fact that the vehicles emissions are well below the results the vehicle would obtain w/o that mod, would be mute. If this mod is so easily adaptable and while providing substantial increase of mpg, a reduction of emissions, then why wouldn't a country who, in a much less techno advanced state, sent a man to tee off on the surface of the moon and returned to earth so he could finish at his favorite 19th watering hole just for the hell of it, have already developed and made use of it for the benefit of all and reduced the controlling effects of oil supply vs. demand dependency? Unless the goal is the continued benefit & maintained control of a specific few, at the continued manipulation & expense of the many. In which case, the conditions we are presently experiencing are exactly as they are supposed to be. Good Luck in your experimental plunge.

 

WTF?

 

56 it think you stayed up too late. Lets not make this thread a Bit#$ sesson on how the man is screwing all of us, We own trucks we know this already. Hydorgen can help but it is not a easy quick fix. For example if tapwater is used instead of distiled water a H generator will also create a poison gas. Also the newer the car the harder it is to retrofit a add on like this. We could all go to hydorgen cars, but it uses so much electricty to make hydrogen right now we would use more oil not less.

Lets stick to what this thread is about, has anyone already tried this on a ford truck?

 

Actually what your friend installed is a hydroxy gas generator. Some units (and there are quite a few choices) will produce more hydroxy gas than others. A friend of mine built and installed a 'smack' hydroxy gas generator in his 2001 Ford ranger, he claims his mileage increase was close to 30%. Because the engine runs much cleaner, tricking the vehicles oxygen sensor is an important feature, without doing this, the engines computer will richen the A/F mixture and in fact might result in a negative MPG increase (as I am told). There are several ways to accomplish this trickery.

Honda has a car going into production that has a hydrogen gas generator for its energy source.

This is an amazing technology and with the high price of gas it is coming more to the forefront. The hydroxy gas generator also allows for a much cleaner exhaust coming from the tail pipe. This is a win/win situation the way I see it.

I am reasearching which hydroxy gas generator that I want to build and have seen several good designs. I will be building one of these units in the very near future myself.

 

I still haven't built mine yet, but I am watching this. I have a schematic for the electronics required to trick the oxygen sensor.

 

All I have really seen is the "water4gas.com" book adds and kits on Ebay for about $100. If anyone has a link to plans please send it to me or post it. Hope we can move this to the how to section when this is done.

 

I am on two yahoo tech groups http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/WorkingWatercar/ and
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/watercar/

These two groups have a tremendous amount of information and designs for the hydroxy gas generators (HHO boosters). Bob Boyce is the guru on the first group and he freely shares his knowledge and designs.

Here is a great site with lots of links, plans, and more information than you can absorb in a week.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Bob_Boyce_Electrolyzer_Plans http://pesn.com/2007/09/29/9500450_BobBoyce_Electrolizer_Plans/d9.pdf