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03-10-2018, 11:06 AM
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03-10-2018, 04:27 PM
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Having popular things on your truck won't keep you from getting stuck, either. 
And he's not talking about a lift just for kicks - he's said his concern is getting stuck.
And he's not talking about a lift just for kicks - he's said his concern is getting stuck.
03-10-2018, 05:21 PM
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I'd agree with SDMartin65 here; A lot of people are putting lifts on their trucks just because it looks good ; in their opinion which is the only one that matters; but a lot of people who are serious about getting around in the off road areas will install one as well. While it is true that your axles don't go up without putting bigger tires on, you usually don't have the option of bigger tires unless you lift it. But more importantly, the extra ground clearance for the frame and running gear can be the difference in a lot of situations (especially mud and really deep snow) between driving home and walking; or spending hours digging and winching.
03-10-2018, 08:13 PM
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I did say “lesson” the chances. I view going off-road the same as when I ride my bike. For bikes it’s you have 2 types of riders, those who have laid it down and those who will lay it down (if you are wondering, yes and I still have the road rash scars 13yrs later)... for off-roading, it’s those who have been stuck and those who will get stuck...
a lift will allow me to put 35” tires on my truck without having them stuck out the sides, which will give me 2” of axle lift... I am from KY and live in TN. If anyone on here has ever been on the trails of LBL, you will understand. Every rain changes the roads and some of them haven’t been driven on in years from the overgrowth on them... great times!
I do appreciate everyone’s options and comments. As much as I’d love for another lift vs lower debate, the one from a few years ago was enough for me with all the people getting butt-hurt because not everyone agreed with them... lol! if you haven’t read it, do a search, it was GREAT!
a lift will allow me to put 35” tires on my truck without having them stuck out the sides, which will give me 2” of axle lift... I am from KY and live in TN. If anyone on here has ever been on the trails of LBL, you will understand. Every rain changes the roads and some of them haven’t been driven on in years from the overgrowth on them... great times!
I do appreciate everyone’s options and comments. As much as I’d love for another lift vs lower debate, the one from a few years ago was enough for me with all the people getting butt-hurt because not everyone agreed with them... lol! if you haven’t read it, do a search, it was GREAT!
03-10-2018, 11:25 PM
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So back to the subject at hand, when I get back I town I will most likely go back to Ford and ask about the camber, if they look at me with the deer in headlights look I will take it to a tire shop and see what they say.
03-11-2018, 03:37 PM
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I haven't made the LBL trip yet, but I'd like to. The closest I got was a short-lived park in Dyersburg called "Coon Creek". There's one closer to me called "Sugar Creek" that I need to check out, but I suspect it's mostly mud, being so close to the river.
03-12-2018, 04:19 AM
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I grew up in the surrounding counties. Went countless times when we were kids just to go. 5 of us in my dads old ‘69 F100. I try to go back every chance I get. Hunting and just running the trails.
If you are able to get that way, I’d suggest making sure you eat at Patties 1880s settlement. If you go after thanksgiving they have a nice walk-thru Christmas light thing. It’s on the KY end of LBL. Restaurant is rather expensive but the tour thru the settlement is free.
If you are able to get that way, I’d suggest making sure you eat at Patties 1880s settlement. If you go after thanksgiving they have a nice walk-thru Christmas light thing. It’s on the KY end of LBL. Restaurant is rather expensive but the tour thru the settlement is free.
08-25-2018, 09:08 AM
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This from an earlier comment in this thread adds,
Indeed; your opinion and occasional advice. I appreciate your knowledge and experience. I actually look for your comments now, expecting your commentary to be to-the-point and against the grain of the conversation's trending direction. The data, facts, and truth you offer are hard to dispute but easy to validate. That's what makes these forums useful and of research value. I ask questions for the correct answer; not to have my suspicions or assumptions collaborated. You add value Steve83, and for that I say
Thanks.
And back to the thread...
True story!
I agree completely. Look at the Military and the vehicles used - none have more ride height, clearance, or lift than necessary for the task for which they are designed. Some vehicles came up short after being modified - HMMWVs in 2004-2007 as Armor packages crushed suspension and engines lacked power to haul the weight. Even then, the spring capacities and heights were increased but travel and clearance were not added beyond what the fresh hardware contributed/required. No flair but purely performance of the task.
Suspension lifts are to allow more suspension travel and larger t&w combinations rather than tire clearance on body parts or ground clearance. Increasing tire and rim size is the ONLY way to raise ground clearance when addressing this style of truck.
My Grandpa used to admonish: If you need 4WD to get INTO somewhere....
If you don't want to get stuck or have to be assisted once in a stuck condition, stay on improved surfaces or adapt your equipment and driving style to the expected conditions. Tires with knarly grip and tread patterns hinder if not matched to the soil characteristics. Sand tires are not the best for clay/silty/mud conditions and vice versa. Super Swampers suck on Sand Dunes. Wider tires may contribute to "flotation" and span the previous tack, clawing at the undisturbed soil outside of the previous tracks. Gear selection, tire speed, ground speed, and throttle control are key once the action commences or continues. But just taller tires? Cool points, like chrome, won't get you home.
Just my nickel's worth.
Indeed; your opinion and occasional advice. I appreciate your knowledge and experience. I actually look for your comments now, expecting your commentary to be to-the-point and against the grain of the conversation's trending direction. The data, facts, and truth you offer are hard to dispute but easy to validate. That's what makes these forums useful and of research value. I ask questions for the correct answer; not to have my suspicions or assumptions collaborated. You add value Steve83, and for that I say
Thanks.And back to the thread...
I do appreciate everyone’s options and comments. As much as I’d love for another lift vs lower debate, the one from a few years ago was enough for me with all the people getting butt-hurt because not everyone agreed with them... lol! if you haven’t read it, do a search, it was GREAT!
...And I don't think most people who lift their trucks need any lift. It doesn't increase ground clearance - the axles are still the same height above the terrain (until you go nuts with tire size). All it does is make the truck less-stable on- & off-road by raising the CG; AND it makes maintenance harder because all those fasteners & welds have to be re-checked a few times a year (at least, if you have any sense of self-preservation). And when things break, you can't snag a replacement at any JY you happen to pass - you have to order something from the lift company, hoping it's still in-business & producing those parts for such an old truck.
Suspension lifts are to allow more suspension travel and larger t&w combinations rather than tire clearance on body parts or ground clearance. Increasing tire and rim size is the ONLY way to raise ground clearance when addressing this style of truck.
My Grandpa used to admonish: If you need 4WD to get INTO somewhere....
If you don't want to get stuck or have to be assisted once in a stuck condition, stay on improved surfaces or adapt your equipment and driving style to the expected conditions. Tires with knarly grip and tread patterns hinder if not matched to the soil characteristics. Sand tires are not the best for clay/silty/mud conditions and vice versa. Super Swampers suck on Sand Dunes. Wider tires may contribute to "flotation" and span the previous tack, clawing at the undisturbed soil outside of the previous tracks. Gear selection, tire speed, ground speed, and throttle control are key once the action commences or continues. But just taller tires? Cool points, like chrome, won't get you home.
Just my nickel's worth.
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