Towing with previous generations?
07-19-2018, 11:05 AM
#21
We are so spoiled by our modern trucks.
Lets go back to 1979 - we had 351M and 400M engines that made like 154hp and 158 hp. And they got about 10mpg.
If you were pulling a heavy trailer it would be foot-to-the floor on any long hills, and the old man would tell me to let up on it and let it slow down, or I'd "knock the rods out of it".
The only current engine I'm not sold on, is the 2.7 eco, and I can't prove it, but I think they are really overworked.
Lets go back to 1979 - we had 351M and 400M engines that made like 154hp and 158 hp. And they got about 10mpg.
If you were pulling a heavy trailer it would be foot-to-the floor on any long hills, and the old man would tell me to let up on it and let it slow down, or I'd "knock the rods out of it".
The only current engine I'm not sold on, is the 2.7 eco, and I can't prove it, but I think they are really overworked.
07-19-2018, 05:08 PM
#22
FORD lifer
Maybe I'm just thinking about using the right tool for the job.
In 2011, the mantra on the ecoboost was "V8 power, V6 mileage", and I was skeptical then, because putting twin turbos on it will give it lots of power, but more power takes more fuel, unless FOMOCO has repealed the law of physics.
In 2011, the mantra on the ecoboost was "V8 power, V6 mileage", and I was skeptical then, because putting twin turbos on it will give it lots of power, but more power takes more fuel, unless FOMOCO has repealed the law of physics.
07-19-2018, 06:01 PM
#23
This is a point that I'm struggling and juggling right now I'm thinking of "upgrading" for my 2010 5.4 3v screw to a 18 2.7l screw I tow a ~4000lb boat regularly and my 5.4 gets it done in hindsight I would have got 3.55 or 3.73 gears if I had it to do over again but at the time I bought it the 3.31 made sense I'm not gonna lift or throw bigger heavier rubber at it so it didnt matter then. I just wonder how much better if at all the 2.7 will tow that with its numbers being so close to my 5.4. but it would be nice to have some of the features my truck lacks ie back up cam, heated seats.
07-19-2018, 06:02 PM
#24
I say that because it’s (The 2.7) is a teeny 165 ci engine placed in a 6000 lb vehicle. That thing is working it’s butt off just to get away from a stop sign, much less towing.
Im sure the engine exists to help with CAFE standards, and that it will run fine for a while. But I wouldn’t have one, and if I did I wouldn’t be towing anything heavier than a ATV trailer with it. They are not Cummins Cargomaster Diesels
Plus, the 2.7 is making less HP and torque than the 3.5 but it is distributed over the same number of cylinders. Its also in a CGI block like the powerstokes. If anything its less stressed.
Last edited by mass-hole; 07-19-2018 at 06:13 PM.
07-19-2018, 06:12 PM
#25
This is a point that I'm struggling and juggling right now I'm thinking of "upgrading" for my 2010 5.4 3v screw to a 18 2.7l screw I tow a ~4000lb boat regularly and my 5.4 gets it done in hindsight I would have got 3.55 or 3.73 gears if I had it to do over again but at the time I bought it the 3.31 made sense I'm not gonna lift or throw bigger heavier rubber at it so it didnt matter then. I just wonder how much better if at all the 2.7 will tow that with its numbers being so close to my 5.4. but it would be nice to have some of the features my truck lacks ie back up cam, heated seats.
The big benefit will be the unloaded gas mileage, it should be substanitally better than the 5.4.
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07-19-2018, 07:34 PM
#26
If a 4,000 lb boat is the heaviest you will tow, the 2.7 is for you.
07-22-2018, 01:43 AM
#27
I say that because it’s (The 2.7) is a teeny 165 ci engine placed in a 6000 lb vehicle. That thing is working it’s butt off just to get away from a stop sign, much less towing.
Im sure the engine exists to help with CAFE standards, and that it will run fine for a while. But I wouldn’t have one, and if I did I wouldn’t be towing anything heavier than a ATV trailer with it. They are not Cummins Cargomaster Diesels
07-22-2018, 05:56 AM
#28
If the 2.7L is so tough and powerful, why can't you get one in HDPP trucks?
07-22-2018, 07:33 AM
#29
The 2.7 EB can Tow 8k. To tow 8k you need Payload. If the HDPP was available with the 2.7 EB I would buy one.
07-22-2018, 08:31 AM
#30
Holy crap what a difference i drove a 2018 f150 xlt 302a with the 2.7 3.55 rear an sport package the wife an i will definitely be getting one the power an acceleration difference from my current rig is mind blowing now to sell my current truck an cook up a deal thanks for all yalls input that is quite an impressive combo