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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 09:33 AM
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That toy hauler is 6700lb dry. Just a tick heavier than my starcraft. A lot of toy haulers have a heavier tongue weight dry because once you load up your toys, the weight is over the axles.

Post your yellow sticker from your truck, driver side door jam. Make sure you have 1300lb remaining once you, your family, and anything else is in the truck before your trailer and you should be fine.

The weight being rear bias will make towing difficult for a light weight half ton. The more tongue weight you can safely have the better... otherwise that trailer will move you around a bunch.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 11:32 AM
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Okay guys, I am new to this. I am trying to figure this out. Be patient. A few are saying I am close, but good, a lot says no. Help me out. What am I missing?

My tow vehicle is a 2018 F150 Supercrew 4x4, 5.5 box, 3.5l EcoBoost, 3.55 Axle Ratio, Class IV hitch with distribution hitch.

Truck GVWR: 7,000 lbs (white sticker)
Truck: 5,660
3 Pax = 370 Max
33 Gal Fuel = 200
Hitch = 150
Cargo = 300 lbs Max (approx)
Total: 6,680 lbs

GCWR on Pax cargo: 1,714 (yellow sticker)
2 Pax = 370 Max
33 Gal Fuel = 200
Hitch = 150
Cargo = 300 Max (approx)
Total: 1,020 lbs


Rear axle: 4,050 lbs
33 Gal Fuel = 200
Hitch = 150
Cargo = 300 Max (approx)
Total: 650 lbs

GCWR: 18,400 lbs (according to the owner's manual)
Truck = 5.660
Trailer = 9,500 Max (GVWR)
Hitch = 150
Tongue: 1,200
Total: 16,510 lbs

Max Trailer weight: 12,900 lbs (according to the manual)

Trailer GVWR: 9,500 lbs
6,613 (dry)
Water = 420 (8.345 x 50 = 417.25)
Tongue = 1,200 Misc Cargo = 500
Total: 8,233 lbs

What am I missing?

Thank you for your help.

Here are the stickers:




Last edited by gwyatt1; Oct 30, 2019 at 12:15 PM. Reason: wrong figure
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 77Ranger460
If you are looking at a gas F250, you are probably gonna want to look for one with 4.30 gears for a 12700 lb trailer.
I found a used Lariat 6.2 4.30(unicorn) locally, that I still regret not buying.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TellyDSP
I found a used Lariat 6.2 4.30(unicorn) locally, that I still regret not buying.

I am going today to look at one. There is only one out there in my region with close to the options I want.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gwyatt1
Okay guys, I am new to this. I am trying to figure this out. Be patient. A few are saying I am close, but good, a lot says no. Help me out. What am I missing?

Truck GVWR: 7,000 lbs (white sticker)
Truck: 5,660
3 Pax = 370 Max
33 Gal Fuel = 200
Hitch = 150
Cargo = 300 lbs Max (approx)
Total: 6,680 lbs

GCWR on Pax cargo: 1,714 (yellow sticker)
2 Pax = 370 Max
33 Gal Fuel = 200
Hitch = 150
Cargo = 300 Max (approx)
Total: 1,020 lbs


Rear axle: 4,050 lbs
33 Gal Fuel = 200
Hitch = 150
Cargo = 300 Max (approx)
Total: 650 lbs

GCWR: 18,400 lbs (according to the owner's manual)
Truck = 5.660
Trailer = 9,500 Max (GVWR)
Hitch = 150
Tongue: 1,200
Total: 16,510 lbs

Max Trailer weight: 12,900 lbs (according to the manual)

Trailer GVWR: 9,500 lbs
6,613 (dry)
Water = 420 (8.345 x 50 = 417.25)
Tongue = 1,200 Misc Cargo = 500
Total: 8,820 lbs

What am I missing?

Thank you for your help.

Your hitch can take a max of 1,320 pounds. Subtract 150 pounds for wdh (your number), that leaves 1,170 pounds. Assuming a 13% tongue weight, your max trailer would be 1,170 / .13 = 9,000 pounds

BUT...

Now look at the payload sticker. 1,714 pounds. Subtract the weight of you and every passenger or pet going in the vehicle, plus everything you carry inside or in the bed. Passengers and cargo are 670 you say. 1,714 - 670 - 150 for wdh (your number) = 894. 894 / .13 = 6,877 pounds.

These numbers are for a LOADED TRAILER, not an empty trailer. Your trailer is 6,613 pounds dry. So, you can load into that trailer 6,877 - 6,613 = 264 pounds of toys.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gwyatt1
I am going today to look at one. There is only one out there in my region with close to the options I want.
Remember, what matters more than options is the yellow sticker with the PAYLOAD number. You need a much higher number.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Remember, what matters more than options is the yellow sticker with the PAYLOAD number. You need a much higher number.

Oh for sure. I understand that. I am just saying that is the only one here to even consider.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Your hitch can take a max of 1,320 pounds. Subtract 150 pounds for wdh (your number), that leaves 1,170 pounds. Assuming a 13% tongue weight, your max trailer would be 1,170 / .13 = 9,000 pounds

BUT...

Now look at the payload sticker. 1,714 pounds. Subtract the weight of you and every passenger or pet going in the vehicle, plus everything you carry inside or in the bed. Passengers and cargo are 670 you say. 1,714 - 670 - 150 for wdh (your number) = 894. 894 / .13 = 6,877 pounds.

These numbers are for a LOADED TRAILER, not an empty trailer. Your trailer is 6,613 pounds dry. So, you can load into that trailer 6,877 - 6,613 = 264 pounds of toys.
Okay, I understand now. Is .13 the magic number?

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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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Is .13 the magic number in determining what my max trailer weight would be?
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gwyatt1
Is .13 the magic number in determining what my max trailer weight would be?
.13 is the middle of 10% to 15% which is said to be the ideal tongue weight range. All trailers will handle differently depending on load balance, but it gives you guidance for a starting point. Most determine the rough max GVWR of the trailer they can handle from the remaining truck payload by using the 13% number.
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