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Old Jan 22, 2025 | 12:36 PM
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I just went out and froze my butt off and it reads 4x2 HD
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Old Jan 22, 2025 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomerweps
A big difference in trucks is the frame weight & strength which affects payload and GVWR.
If you’re really curious, look under the driver door at the frame. There is a sticker there showing the frame used. You likely have the LD frame and he the HD.
Thanks, interesting a new sticker to add to my sticker photo collection, didn't know that was even there. I haven't spent much time under the truck yet and that is pretty nice. 4 X 4 HD.
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Old Jan 22, 2025 | 11:57 PM
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I'm assumbing my frame is the lightest duty. I have Super cab 4x4 with 3.7 motor. No trans cooler, and 5500 towing capacity.

It is interesting the amount of info available on the different models/years. I also wonder about spring rates, and engine weights. I'm sure motors have some weight difference. 5.0 vs my 3.7 non turbo etc, 3.5 with turbos etc.
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Old Jan 23, 2025 | 12:00 AM
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I've spent some time under mine but didn't know about the sticker there. Nice. I learnt me something new.
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Old Jan 23, 2025 | 11:57 AM
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A sticker is pretty old school. I will have to look on mine. But I don't think it is there. Also I figure if it is there, it won't be readable. Also it must be the lightest frame because of my 5500 towing capacity.
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Old Jan 23, 2025 | 11:59 AM
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I would say the lower towing is due to the engine
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Old Jan 23, 2025 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Grouper63
I would say the lower towing is due to the engine
I assume you are mentioning regarding mine? Yes it only has 300 HP, and less than 300 torque.
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Old Jan 23, 2025 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by phantom6294

What is the GVWR of each vehicle? His might have a higher GVWR which mostly offsets the 4x4 components?

This is the question, and it is the first proper reply in the thread. There may be others. I stopped at phantom's post to add:

GVWR in Fordspeak is "Payload Package". What is it.




Originally Posted by marshallr

I'm under the impression that Ford actually weighs trucks as they come off the assembly line and subtracts that numbebr from GVWR. Ford's payload ratings are usually specific numbers such as 1624, 1971, etc.

I share this impression.

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Old Jan 23, 2025 | 08:38 PM
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I'll share my truck's specs as an example for some perspective.

Details are in my post signature, but, basically, my truck was built as a 6800# Payload Package. Meaning, it's GVWR is 6800 lbs and can never weigh more than that when filled with my people and/or stuff. Period. (do some owners routinely operate their vehicles over weight? All the time. It's not for me if I want my gear to last a long time.).

With such a low-trim XLT, I can place Occupants and Cargo to the tune of 2156 lbs.

Meaning, it's curb weight when built was 4644 lbs, the weight of a 1969 Ford Country Squire station wagon with a 390 cubic inch, a C6 trans and a 9-inch rear end. Boy howdy. That's light for a pickup truck.
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Old Jan 23, 2025 | 09:44 PM
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It’s the GVWR. 2wd has a lower GVWR.
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