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Anyone want to bet on how much the actual hitch weight will be lol ?
Based on your 10500 figure, I'll guess 1300+. Add a WDH and youre mid 14s. You'll be hard pressed to find a used HDPP easily. Without it, you'll be pushing it. I have a SWB XLT Max Tow with the highest payload I could spec out with some creature comforts. I'm at around 1850. The Lariat will eat into that number more. I came across some 2WD LWB XLTs that were around 2k payload. Depending on what you're planning to put in your truck, you're looking at around 3-400lb available before passengers
So after looking into this a bit more I think I may be able to make a 2015+ F150 work for this trailer. I am going to figure out my exact hitch weight this week and then i will know for sure. The 2015's and higher have a much greater payload capability then my 09 truck. I just have to get a more basic Lariat instead of a platinum and I can get one with the max tow and heavy duty payload package.
Anyone want to bet on how much the actual hitch weight will be lol ?
I have no idea what your hitch weight is and I suppose you could change it a bunch by shifting the load in the trailer. I wanted to comment on the 2015+ F150 Lariats HDPP MTP. I believe the Lariat HDPP MTP was only available in 2016, 2017, and 2018. In 2019, only the XL and XLT are available in HDPP MTP. I did see a used one go on this site but they will be hard to find used. Not many out there. You could order a loaded 2019 XLT HDPP MTP. Note on the hitch ratings. Hitch ratings were only 1,220 tongue weight through early 2018 and went to 1,320 in mid 2018 and some late 2018 models didn't even have a weight rating sticker so one assumes 1,320 per the tow guide.
I think a gas F250 is a better option for that trailer but I understand if it's a multi-use vehicle that you would go with the HDPP. I was in the same boat but have a much lighter TT (however I do have10K equipment trailer that I max out frequently for short trips)
I have no idea what your hitch weight is and I suppose you could change it a bunch by shifting the load in the trailer. I wanted to comment on the 2015+ F150 Lariats HDPP MTP. I believe the Lariat HDPP MTP was only available in 2016, 2017, and 2018. In 2019, only the XL and XLT are available in HDPP MTP. I did see a used one go on this site but they will be hard to find used. Not many out there. You could order a loaded 2019 XLT HDPP MTP. Note on the hitch ratings. Hitch ratings were only 1,220 tongue weight through early 2018 and went to 1,320 in mid 2018 and some late 2018 models didn't even have a weight rating sticker so one assumes 1,320 per the tow guide.
I think a gas F250 is a better option for that trailer but I understand if it's a multi-use vehicle that you would go with the HDPP. I was in the same boat but have a much lighter TT (however I do have10K equipment trailer that I max out frequently for short trips)
that is my exact dilemma. I don’t want to step up to a 250 because I use the truck for a lot more then towing the trailer and this is the only item that would make sense for a 250. I only move it around 3 times max a year really.
Keep your current truck and rent an f250 when you need it if it's that infrequent. Sometimes a compromise is a "Jack of all trades, ace of none" situation.
that is my exact dilemma. I don’t want to step up to a 250 because I use the truck for a lot more then towing the trailer and this is the only item that would make sense for a 250. I only move it around 3 times max a year really.
I think you can make it work with an HDPP. GVWR and GAWR should be fine with the HDPP. Hitch rating will be the first limitation. Careful loading should keep the hitch rating in check. The trick will be finding the truck you want. Can you live with an XLT HDPP? If so, just order a 2019. If you need the Lariat. Good luck, it's going to be hard to find and I'm guessing it will command a premium price now that they are discontinued. Just when Unicorn status was starting to seem inappropriate, the Lariat HDPP has become the unicorn once again! If the issue is not having leather seats due to pets and what not, there are some aftermarket solutions that could be applied to the XLT.
I really like the F250. I probably like it more than the F150. The 6.2L sounds nice and with 4.30 gears pulls well. The truck looks good and they are easy to find. But for me with 80% of my annual 20K miles running without a trailer, $1,000 more a year for gas and not being able to park in the garage at work was too much compromise. But nice truck if you go that route.
My 2018 HDPP lariat screw 3.5 has a hitch rating of 1320lb and payload of 2333. I hope this helps.
Next year HDPP only available in XLT 301A or lower trim. No more lariat.
Im guessing your hitch weight would max out my truck. You really should be considering a F250. I ordered my HDPP because I’ll be towing 8000lb and wanted to do it comfortably, not because I’m looking to max out a maxed out 1/2 ton.
that is my exact dilemma. I don’t want to step up to a 250 because I use the truck for a lot more then towing the trailer and this is the only item that would make sense for a 250. I only move it around 3 times max a year really.
If the trailer is largely stationary why not rent an appropriate sized vehicle when you need to move it or hire it out. As long as they aren't cross country moves my guess is it would be a lot more cost efficient than buying a new truck. Unless of course you are trying to justify a new truck.
that is my exact dilemma. I don’t want to step up to a 250 because I use the truck for a lot more then towing the trailer and this is the only item that would make sense for a 250. I only move it around 3 times max a year really.
I don't understand people. Not trying to be rude but here is a quick summary of where we are at:
You: Start a thread saying you had a terrible towing experience with your trailer and F150. You ask how you can avoid this in the future.
Us: Your trailer is too large for a 1/2 Ton truck. You should look at a F250 or F350 to fix your problem.
You: Eh but I dont really want a F250. You sure an F150 wouldnt work?
It's simple physics, you are trying to pull 10,000lbs with a truck that weighs maybe 5,600. Additionally, you are putting ~1,400 six feet behind the axle of a truck /w a rear suspension designed to get groceries and go to the mall. Even /w a HDPP you are most likely going to be over hitch weight which I think is 1,320lbs. Step up to a F250 or F350 or downsize the trailer.
OP, since it seems like you really want to stick to an F-150, and I don't blame you since you don't tow often, I'd say you should look at a lighter trailer. Some are lighter than others, so you might be able to get away with a trailer that is only slightly smaller but much lighter.
The results are in! The hitch weight is just under 1,200ibs! Looks like a 2015+ F150 would work just fine. I assume adding some airbags in the back of the truck may be needed but now I will be within speck instead of a couple hundred pounds or more over. This combination sounds like it will work for our trips to the dunes and camping. Is it at the max yes is it able to do it yes! lol I just have to make sure its loaded correctly. Now that I have my scale I can measure the weight before every trip.
09-09-2018, 07:09 PM
