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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 02:21 PM
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Hi all, I have a 2022 Lariat Supercrew with Max Tow Package, 3.55 axle ratio, 3.5 Ecoboost, FX4, regular wheelbase. Looking at the 22' towing guide, is my GCWR 16,900 lbs or 19,400 lbs? Payload is 1700 lbs, GVWR is 7050 lbs. Sorry to ask but Ford shouldn't make this so difficult to configure.
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 03:51 PM
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It should be in your owners manual in the towing section, not sure your exact configuration but in 2017 it would be between 12K and 17K.

What are you looking at towing? For a camper you can pretty much ignore GCWR as payload will be the 1st limit hit, and don't use the brochure weight of a camper.
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 05:39 PM
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I’m betting you have the lesser rating with a Lariat.

What’s “regular wheelbase” anyway? If that means 5.5’ bed, definitely the lower rating.
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Paycheck
I’m betting you have the lesser rating with a Lariat.

What’s “regular wheelbase” anyway? If that means 5.5’ bed, definitely the lower rating.
Yes it's the 5.5' bed.
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by llr
It should be in your owners manual in the towing section, not sure your exact configuration but in 2017 it would be between 12K and 17K.

What are you looking at towing? For a camper you can pretty much ignore GCWR as payload will be the 1st limit hit, and don't use the brochure weight of a camper.
Owner's manual is generic and not vehicle specific. Not looking to tow anything close to the max tow rating, I am generally just curious what the GCWR is.
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 06:14 PM
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I'm betting on 19,400. The only footnote associated with it is a 'max tow' requirement, which you state you have.


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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 08:13 PM
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I'm betting on 19,400. The only footnote associated with it is a 'max tow' requirement, which you state you have.
That is what I am thinking also. Just trying to look for confirmation. The hitch sticker which I know doesn't represent what the truck can tow, says 14,000 lb weight distributing. Which leads me to also think the bigger number for the GCWR. BUT then why would a 3.73 axle, 145" WB only tow 11,000 with max tow package and heavy duty payload package but mine with a slighlty taller gear ratio tow 13,800 lbs without the heavy duty payload package?

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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bcb97
That is what I am thinking also. Just trying to look for confirmation. The hitch sticker which I know doesn't represent what the truck can tow, says 14,000 lb weight distributing. Which leads me to also think the bigger number for the GCWR. BUT then why would a 3.73 axle, 145" WB only tow 11,000 with max tow package and heavy duty payload package but mine with a slighlty taller gear ratio tow 13,800 lbs without the heavy duty payload package?
I think you are looking at the wrong line(s). The 11,000 lb tow capacity SC w/ 3.73s, 145" WB and the 3.5EB that I see in the chart has a footnote of 6, which is the Tremor Package, not HDPP. HDPP (footnote 7) is not available in the 5.5 truck (145" WB). You need the 6.5 bed.
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What's going on with the lower ratings is Ford chose to not offer 3.73 gearing for 5.5ft bed 3.5 eco trucks except for the Tremor.

With 4 extra gears, and all of the first six gears being shorter than their 6r80 counterparts, the 10r80's don't work as hard as the 6r80's. 3.55 has become the new 3.73. Add in the additional 60lb-ft the 2nd gen 3.5eco picked up, 3.73 is no longer needed for power delivery or longevity. CAFE average gets a bump from fewer 3.73's being used with the big tow engine.
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Flamingtaco
What's going on with the lower ratings is Ford chose to not offer 3.73 gearing for 5.5ft bed 3.5 eco trucks except for the Tremor.

With 4 extra gears, and all of the first six gears being shorter than their 6r80 counterparts, the 10r80's don't work as hard as the 6r80's. 3.55 has become the new 3.73. Add in the additional 60lb-ft the 2nd gen 3.5eco picked up, 3.73 is no longer needed for power delivery or longevity. CAFE average gets a bump from fewer 3.73's being used with the big tow engine.
I see, makes sense. Thank you sir.
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