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Exhaust Manifolds and Turbos Failing @ 71K miles. $6300 REPAIR? WTF?

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Old 09-13-2018, 03:27 AM
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These engines usually tend to leak from the passenger side only. On a cold start, can you hear the leak from the driver side, too? And yes, all of these issues are to be expected with any ecoboost engine!
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Good luck!

Even if the studs are rusted on the outside, they often just spin out of the head. I did my turbo's and manifolds when I upgraded to Full Race BW turbo's. Took me 8 hours in my garage by myself. I upgraded to ported and ceramic coated manifolds to help evacuate heat and prevent the chance of warping.

I think that price is not too far off for a full retail dealership deal.

Turbo's from Tasca are $550 each
Manifolds are $40 each (yes, $40)
gaskets, studs, coolant lines, coolant fittings at the block, etc are $350

So,
$1500 in parts from Tasca
16 hours in labor = $2400
Total with some "extra" = $3900

If you talked full retail on parts, it's jumps to $5800
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Originally Posted by clarkbre
...My only question to Ford now is what caused the wastegates to not open...
This is a good question you could have two bad wastegate actuators (available separate from the turbos, $300), two bad wastegates that are sticking shut (two bad turbochargers), a bad wastegate control solenoid ($20), or something as simple as a vacuum leak in the lines to or from the solenoid. I find it interesting that the dealer's hypothesis (guess) is that you need the most expensive repair possible.

Did they even mention checking the solenoid or smoke/flow testing the vacuum lines?

Also did anyone manually actuate the wastegate valves to see if they're sticking?

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The above posts all pose very good, still unanswered questions.

In the end, the exhaust manifolds were warped as well. The the extended warranty picked up the cost of new turbos, manifolds and a vacuum pump covering all but $650 (oil change, warranty deductible, an hour for stud extraction, misc. hardware and gaskets and tax) that I had to cover out of pocket. For that I felt very fortunate and lucky. I picked up the truck on Monday night and it drove great. However, Ford could still never answer the questions of why or how it happened. They also could not say whether or not there was any other possible damage to the engine due to these failure points. That was concerning to me.

This entire repair process also brought to light the discussion of moving on to a different truck. We purchased the F150 long before we even thought of a travel trailer. Once we bought the trailer, the F150 was at or over the payload while towing. So, with a new lease on life, we put the F150 up for sale and it sold (for asking price) within 24 hours.

Some may call it a step back; however, we are currently in the market for a '14-'16 F250 6.2, 4x4, SuperCrew, shortbed. I think the motor may not be as powerful on the bottom end but the simplicity and the additional 1200 lbs of payload capacity will be a worthwhile trade.
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If you need more payload, you need more payload. Good for you that you're being smart with the safety of your family and others on the road. I don't know how many times I read about folks trying to tow X amount of pounds with a 1/2 ton when we all know the tow numbers are overinflated at best.
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Originally Posted by clarkbre
The above posts all pose very good, still unanswered questions.

In the end, the exhaust manifolds were warped as well. The the extended warranty picked up the cost of new turbos, manifolds and a vacuum pump covering all but $650 (oil change, warranty deductible, an hour for stud extraction, misc. hardware and gaskets and tax) that I had to cover out of pocket. For that I felt very fortunate and lucky. I picked up the truck on Monday night and it drove great. However, Ford could still never answer the questions of why or how it happened. They also could not say whether or not there was any other possible damage to the engine due to these failure points. That was concerning to me.

This entire repair process also brought to light the discussion of moving on to a different truck. We purchased the F150 long before we even thought of a travel trailer. Once we bought the trailer, the F150 was at or over the payload while towing. So, with a new lease on life, we put the F150 up for sale and it sold (for asking price) within 24 hours.

Some may call it a step back; however, we are currently in the market for a '14-'16 F250 6.2, 4x4, SuperCrew, shortbed. I think the motor may not be as powerful on the bottom end but the simplicity and the additional 1200 lbs of payload capacity will be a worthwhile trade.
If I were you I would try to find an f350 6.2l. Same truck just higher sticker ratings. New, the f250 and f350 were about $1000 difference in price. Used, they are about the same, at least in my area.
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Thanks guys.

When I wrote my last post, I actually had a truck in mind but didn't know if it would really come to light. My wife and I took a drive from Seattle to Portland today and bought the truck. It was a local trade and the dealer was truly helpful. I was able to test the e-locker, 4wd and everything else. I was curious about the skid plates with the FX4 so they put it up on a rack for me and let me do a thorough look at the undercarriage. Overall, the truck is as flawless as it could be for having 33k miles on it.

So, here is the '16 F250 6.2L XLT FX4 4x4 SuperCrew Short bed:

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Now that's a truck! Very nice. You're going to be grinning ear to ear when you pull your trailer. Should be a night and day difference.
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Awesome choice, you're going to be happy with it. The 6.2 is a little sluggish, but certainly gets the job done.



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