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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 11:45 AM
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i have a 2002 supercrew 4x4 im wanting a programmer just dont know which one i should get any one have a opinion on it ? it has the 4.6 in it have k and n cai and catback magnaflow
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:02 PM
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I would like to get the edge evolution, but im not sure how it will work on our era. My dad has one on his 04 and it works great. It was 100 more for our era than the 04 era and they dont have it on there website. So i guess its up too you if you like it or not.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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[QUOTE=Steeda99;1461181]I would like to get the edge evolution, but im not sure how it will work on our era. My dad has one on his 04 and it works great. It was 100 more for our era than the 04 era and they dont have it on there website. So i guess its up too you if you like it or not.[/QUOTyea i have heard the edge evo is good just dont no the specs on it dont wanna spend the money if it doesnt give me what i want what gains does your dads truck get ?
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:50 PM
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I have one on my 98 4.6. Definitely happy with it for what I spent. If you check out my profile I have a post of all the gains I got from it and before/after times.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:51 PM
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Custom tuned to get the most out of the intake. SCT, Diablo, or Gryphon.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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SCT, way more options for custom tunes
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 027lug
SCT, way more options for custom tunes
Agreed im going with the sct 4 bank chip from 5 star tuning. And its a good deal at $360 with 4 custom tunes included.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:57 PM
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on my dads the shifting firmness has increased a lot and it gained a second in the quarter mile. We haven't had any mileage increases but the throttle response it a lot better on it. Also it is nice to see the various gauges that is offers as well. We are running the towing tune so im sure it would be different on the performance tune.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 04:14 PM
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Just be cautious...you can't compare what a tuner does to a 3v engine because it's a whole different animal..not only in how the motor responds to the tune, but the software running the PCM.

A 2v will never get as good of gains from a CAi and tune like a 3v does... Just won't happen. From any given tuner your going to get between 5-10 rwhp from their canned tune. They are not much more aggressive than stock tunes( even at 93 octane levels) because of probable law suits from people putting the wrong gas in and killing their motor or causing a lean condition that makes it go boom..ect. It's for their safety really.

The best option for a tune on any vehicle is a dyno tune, second best is a drive by wire tune( data log your driving, then send it to a tuner), third best is a "custom tune" as most call it on here where some guy has a spiffed up generic tune for a truck...it's better than a factory tune lol.

The only way I was personally able to increase my gas mileage from a tune was to lean out the global fuel to around 15.1 stoich ratio.. It's normally at 14.7 but it's still safe as long as you program the map to increase fuel as throttle percentage increases. Adjusting the global timing also does the trick. This is something a tuner will never do, unless you get it on a dyno. They will increase the timing slightly but not enough to see the power gains you will from, again, a dyno tune.

I would go with an sct tuner for the options of getting programmed all 3 ways I mentioned. If you want to learn how to tune your vehicle yourself I would recommend some end user software and a wideband air fuel meter from either sct or delta force tuning. If you really want to learn what your truck is doing that's the way to go.

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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JCP281

The only way I was personally able to increase my gas mileage from a tune was to lean out the global fuel to around 15.1 stoich ratio.. It's normally at 14.7 but it's still safe as long as you program the map to increase fuel as throttle percentage increases.
I hope you don't tow with that tune. What kind of a/f are you running at 3000,4000, 5000 rpm? I'd hope more towards the 11-10.5 a/f. Not flaming, just curious.

The average person an email custom tune will do them just fine. VMP along with several others will do data logging and the SCT system is very good at that. I've actually seen email tunes run better/safer than some dyno tunes depending on who the tuner is.
It's not the software that makes the tuner, it's the tuner that makes the software. My 2 cents.
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