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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 2thousand5.4
That's what I was thinking to that's why I didn't want to go much over 10.8:1 for the CR. Maybe a medium high CR and low boost. I'm gonna talk to Thomas about going 4v too, probably won't do 4v but it's a possibility. I also plan on keeping this truck as my daily for a long time so I don't want to go crazy with it. I want to keep it on pump gas obviously, but not E85 since I have never seen it here. Stock we are at like maybe 200 rwhp and 250 rwtq, if I could hit 300 rwhp and 350 or 400 rwtq without twisted wedge heads or boost I'd be happy
10.8 is even pretty high for what most 2v guys shoot for. Ask around on lightning rodder.

Keep in mind stock lightnings ran 8.5:1 for a reason
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2thousand5.4

What's the specs on your engine and power numbers? I mean I would love to have a coyote but dam buy the time I get the motor, the trans, the wiring harness, the tune, and fabricate all the other **** I might as well just buy a new truck. Way to expensive
Specs are in the build thread, but with the headers and everything I'm putting on mine I'm hoping around 300 something at the crank. I'm putting it on the dyno for ****s and giggles, then I'm putting it back on after a blower
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2thousand5.4
I'm gonna do some research. I wonder if I can hit 325 rwhp on pi heads with out sending them to fox lake or spending a **** load on port work. I'm planning on doing something in the 9.5-10.8:1 Ranger for compression
a NPI motor with PI heads can make around 300 or more with a good tune and cams on 93 IIRC
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cmanjr
a NPI motor with PI heads can make around 300 or more with a good tune and cams on 93 IIRC
I'm talking 300 at the wheels which is probably closer to 400 at the crank lol not gonna make that on stock heads on a npi motor with just a cam
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jferg92
10.8 is even pretty high for what most 2v guys shoot for. Ask around on lightning rodder.

Keep in mind stock lightnings ran 8.5:1 for a reason
Alot of the lightning guys run higher boost tho. I think a non lighting pi 5.4 is like 9.1:1 and guys are running 10-12 pounds on that. 10.8 is probably a little high but something in the High 9s to low 10s may work out with less boost. I'm not looking for anything crazy 6-8 pounds would be more than enough
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 2thousand5.4

Alot of the lightning guys run higher boost tho. I think a non lighting pi 5.4 is like 9.1:1 and guys are running 10-12 pounds on that. 10.8 is probably a little high but something in the High 9s to low 10s may work out with less boost. I'm not looking for anything crazy 6-8 pounds would be more than enough
I'm running stock compression but I'll be maxing out the boost on an m122 or a whipple depending on the funds when I'm ready to do it
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackedup00
I'm running stock compression but I'll be maxing out the boost on an m122 or a whipple depending on the funds when I'm ready to do it
Honestly I may just upgrad trucks. When you look at the power potential of a coyote or ecoboost it doesn't make sense to build a 2v
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 2thousand5.4

Honestly I may just upgrad trucks. When you look at the power potential of a coyote or ecoboost it doesn't make sense to build a 2v
If you just want extra power without going insanely expensive toss a blower on your stock motor. Idk what shape your engine is in, but run it til it quits and get a new 5.4 for $2-$3k. You'd be in the new motor/blower for around $5-6k vs $20-25k for a 12th gen.
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackedup00
If you just want extra power without going insanely expensive toss a blower on your stock motor. Idk what shape your engine is in, but run it til it quits and get a new 5.4 for $2-$3k. You'd be in the new motor/blower for around $5-6k vs $20-25k for a 12th gen.
My trans or motor would blow up really quick if I just put on a blower. I have almost 200k on it. They are in good shape but still
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 2thousand5.4
I'm talking 300 at the wheels which is probably closer to 400 at the crank lol not gonna make that on stock heads on a npi motor with just a cam
260 rwhp max, using factory parts on the engine w/LT headers. That with a npi 5four block w/PI heads and intake. That combination will get the mostess out of a LTH install. It's the most I've seen on the dyno adding 30 hp 35 torque at the rear wheels. That's part of the 260 rwhp.

If you want to figure parasitic loss or gain for FWHP add or subtract about 35% for these trucks.

Adding in cams, you got me...haven't seen those differences on the dyno. Just what I posted above. If you want more than 260, - you might as well charge it.

A coyote w/doner would be a great find if reasonably priced. With a doner, it's just about cake. The icing goes on as soon as you hit the go pedal, and comes back off temporarily after leaving the transmission in the dust.
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