why is the 5.4 underpowered
#21
Senior Member
I used to have a Titan (stock) and it's night and day difference--power, torque, get up and go, all of it! Never been a chevy guy, but driven some, and they are not close to the Titan, but a lot of better than the 5.4. Well, bought a SCREW and I love it, but it feels like driving a golf cart around. This is what I think when most people say they are "under powered". I'm comparing stock to stock trucks. Now that I have put on bigger tires and a 2" level, I bought a tuner to compensate. Much better but still feels like I'm hauling a load of bricks around all the time. Just my opinion.
#22
Senior Member
Compared to new engines, the 5.4 is old and slow. But for its vintage it is average or better. Has good torque down low but dies at high rpms. Opposite of new 5.0....
#23
Yea, I know. I'm using getting a tuner as a reward for myself if I get some other projects around the house. I need motivation because I really don't want to tear down a 40 year old shower that has too much old fashion concrete backing behind the tile (it's 1 1/2 inches thick)!
#24
Senior Member
Ok, let me slow this down for you. The Titan is faster from a dead stop up to highway speeds. Chevy would be next. The Ford 5.4 is slow and sluggish. Go test drive a Titan or Chevy and find out for yourself. Please report back to us and explain your findings. Easy enough for you?
#25
I've put 167k on my 04 Lariat. I've always termed it like this......"This is just a heavy azz truck". Well, the truck isn't any heavier than others.
It's just sluggish with the factory tune. The power is there, it just needs to be extracted.
Getting a tuner, just trying to decide which one.
It's just sluggish with the factory tune. The power is there, it just needs to be extracted.
Getting a tuner, just trying to decide which one.
#26
Senior Member
Its important to differentiate the terminology you use. The 5.4 is anything but fast, in fact, its a slug. However, it has very impressive torque levels at this low RPMs as others have said. I've hauled 8k pounds on the highway with this thing and it pulls damn good, held its own against my buddy's cummins. with the same load.
Underpowered and slow are not the same thing.
Underpowered and slow are not the same thing.
Last edited by atnolan94; 11-04-2014 at 01:00 PM.
#27
I Like Tires
This^^^
Put the 5.0 in the old 4R75E tranny and I would pick the 5.4 everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
The 5.0 puts out a negligible amount of more torque when you consider it comes in at about 500rpms higher than the 5.4
With my tuner it pulls like a train. The 5.0 is inherently a high winding motor because of its cam set up. A tune won't do much to bring a lot of low end torque. Drop some torquey cams in there and you might have a different story but then people would complain about it barely having more hp than the old 5.4
The 5.4 and 5.0 were built for different uses by ford IMO. The 3.5TT was made to replace the low end torque of the 5.4 and it quite frankly mops the floor with it. The 5.0 fits the go fast crowd and makes up for being a high revving motor by having the new 6-speed
Put the 5.0 in the old 4R75E tranny and I would pick the 5.4 everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
The 5.0 puts out a negligible amount of more torque when you consider it comes in at about 500rpms higher than the 5.4
With my tuner it pulls like a train. The 5.0 is inherently a high winding motor because of its cam set up. A tune won't do much to bring a lot of low end torque. Drop some torquey cams in there and you might have a different story but then people would complain about it barely having more hp than the old 5.4
The 5.4 and 5.0 were built for different uses by ford IMO. The 3.5TT was made to replace the low end torque of the 5.4 and it quite frankly mops the floor with it. The 5.0 fits the go fast crowd and makes up for being a high revving motor by having the new 6-speed
Last edited by BassAckwards; 11-04-2014 at 01:39 PM.
#28
Chive So Hard
I will have to agree with everyone on having a tuner to wake this motor up. I have and SCT X4 on mine and it feels way better over stock. I was also really shocked when I clocked a 16.9 @ 82 on the quarter mile. My truck is leveled and turning 35's with stock 3.73 gears. While not fast, it was quicker than I expected. The motors road manners on the other hand seem to also tie in with the fact that it lacks extra gears in the trans. It always seems to want to drop one too many gears and then it feels like it struggles.
#29
Senior Member
Ok, let me slow this down for you. The Titan is faster from a dead stop up to highway speeds. Chevy would be next. The Ford 5.4 is slow and sluggish. Go test drive a Titan or Chevy and find out for yourself. Please report back to us and explain your findings. Easy enough for you?