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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Going from a 255 70 17 to a 285 70 17. What will be the difference on the speedometer ?
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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you won't notice it at all. Now if you went to a bigger rim and a 35" tire or a 37" tire you would have a bigger speed change
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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Since the aspect ratio (70) and the rim size (17) remain the same, the theoretical difference will be the ratio of the new treadwidth to the old width => 285 / 255 = 1.118.
If this were a perfect world and actual tire sizes really did match the stated tire sizes, then you will be going 11.8% faster on down the road at the same speedo reading. In other words, if you were doing a true 60mph with the old tires, you will now be going just over 67mph for the same speedo reading of 60.
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All seriousness aside, the formula used to approximate tire height is (rim diameter) + 2x(tire sidewall height).
The tire sidewall height is calculated by the width x (aspect ratio).

For the 255x70 - would expect a sidewall height of 255x0.70 = 178.5 millimeters (1inch=25.4mm) or 7.03 inches.
For the 285x70 - would expect a sidewall height of 199.5 millimeters, or 7.85 inches.

Actual heights will differ from theoretical due to manufacturer tolerances, air pressure, and vehicle weight, but this calc should be close enough for making comparisons.

The theoretical height of the 255x70R17 should be about (17) + 2x(7.03), or 31.06 inches.
The theoretical height of the 285x70R17 should be about (17) + 2x(7.85), or 32.7 inches.

The expected speedo error should be 32.7 / 31.06 = 1.053, or a 5.3% error, making for an actual speed of 63.2mph for a presumed accurate speedo reading at 60.

Last edited by wde3477; Aug 19, 2007 at 07:16 PM. Reason: Calculator was out to lunch
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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What problems will my 255 spare tire cause with 285's ?
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wde3477
Since the aspect ratio (70) and the rim size (17) remain the same, the theoretical difference will be the ratio of the new treadwidth to the old width => 285 / 255 = 1.118.
If this were a perfect world and actual tire sizes really did match the stated tire sizes, then you will be going 11.8% faster on down the road at the same speedo reading. In other words, if you were doing a true 60mph with the old tires, you will now be going just over 67mph for the same speedo reading of 60.
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Editted - had a Homer Simpson D'Oh moment.
All seriousness aside, the formula used to approximate tire height is (rim diameter) + 2x(tire sidewall height).
The tire sidewall height is calculated by the width x (aspect ratio).

For the 255x70 - would expect a sidewall height of 255x0.70 = 178.5 millimeters (1inch=25.4mm) or 7.03 inches.
For the 285x70 - would expect a sidewall height of 199.5 millimeters, or 7.85 inches.

Actual heights will differ from theoretical due to manufacturer tolerances, air pressure, and vehicle weight, but this calc should be close enough for making comparisons.

The theoretical height of the 255x70R17 should be about (17) + 2x(7.03), or 31.06 inches.
The theoretical height of the 285x70R17 should be about (17) + 2x(7.85), or 32.7 inches.

The expected speedo error should be 32.7 / 31.06 = 1.053, or a 5.3% error, making for an actual speed of 63.2mph for a presumed accurate speedo reading at 60.
Well said.
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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screw all of that math, i got the same answer using this website http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

and from what i hear about using the spare that is a different size is, that you shouldnt with 4wd, but i may be mistaken.
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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On the front it won't matter if you use the spare as long as you are not in 4wd. On the rear I am sure you have a locker of some sort and diffrent sized tires can burn up the clutches in a locker in under a mile.
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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What NGM said. Put the smaller spare tire on the front and head to a tire repair shop.
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