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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 11:59 AM
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Wait, hang on a minute....


Are you saying your engine HAS these problems, or you're hoping they don't crop up?

'Cuz if it's solid already, throw an oil pressure gauge on it. If that's solid, I might do pre-emptive chains/tensioners/guides and maybe the moving parts in the valvetrain.
The bottom end of these engines really don't wear out if they're taken care of at all. Valvetrain has been a little more hit-or-miss from the factory, but good ones go quite a ways.

If you're going to throw dollars at it, and can be without the truck for a while, pull the engine and re-build the bottom end with forged rods/pistons, and maybe a light overbore. But, if you're not looking for more than about 450hp at the wheels, even that is overkill.
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 06:47 PM
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Well at the top of my list I dont want to start over on a car payment so no ti getting a newer truck. This will still at times be my everyday family car so Im not trying to do anything extreme but i did have problems with the truck earlier in the year where the motor was having problems reaching its powerbands but i was a idiot and drove it like this for several months till i got my tax return. Then took it to the shop, they found the right cam phaser was bad and replaced it. It drove like new again but the never before syptom of rough idle when coming to a stop or at lower speeds is a pain....took it back to the same shop and they were they farest priced guys i found too and told me the engine is at the beginning of alot of bad things starting to happen and it made sense how they explained it to me... they suggested thicker oil cause my oil pump isnt picking up when the engine gets hot enough.... i figure it did good for 170k and the previous ownwer used it as a work truck, with electronic trailer brake and all......so honestly Im not all downright upset.
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 06:58 PM
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Sounds like the typical "don't want to fix it guys" did they put a Dorman phaser in there when they replaced it too? Sorry but I would run away from that mechanic and never take a vehicle back there. When they replaced the single phaser they should have replaced all the timing components. Phasers go bad because of another underlying problem. Usually lack of oil pressure because of a blown tensioner seal or two, or broken chain guides clogging the oil pickup tube. That's why you're right back in this situation now. This mechanic is either ignorant when it comes to this problem or knows and doesn't want to deal with it. Like I said.... Run away and never go back, even if you decide on a reman engine don't take it back to them.

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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 07:09 PM
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Sounds like the typical "don't want to fix it so guys" did they put a Dorman phaser in there when they replaced it too? Sorry but I would run away from that mechanic and never take a vehicle back there. When they replaced the single phaser they should have replaced all the timing components. Phasers go bad because of another underlying problem. Usually lack of oil pressure because of a blown tensioner seal or two, or broken chain guides clogging the oil pickup tube. That's why you're right back in this situation now. This mechanic is either ignorant when it comes to this problem or knows and doesn't want to deal with it. Like I said.... Run away and never go back, even if you decide on a reman engine don't take it back to them.
Agreed 100%. I'd take it and get a second opinion somewhere else. Definitely sounds like it's due for a full timing rebuild, and maybe a new oil pump.
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Old Sep 8, 2017 | 01:05 AM
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Okay im convinced..... ill look up a ford specialist. Ive done an upper engine rebuild on 2 pushrod motors but not a touch on the lower end and overhead cams make me nervous too. When i did get other opinions b4 i was hearing $2.5-$3k and up worth of work on average.... might as well start fresh is whats been swimming around my head....
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Old Sep 8, 2017 | 09:01 AM
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2.5-3k sounds about right. Starting fresh will cost you about 2.5-3k more. Mine costed me about $3100 and a reman was quoted at 5-6k. We don't know your budget or how free you are with your money. That's a decision you'll have to make. I think all were saying is that mechanic is wrong about needing a reman. Most likely you can get your engine fixed and she should last you a long time. Both options have their own benefits
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Old Sep 8, 2017 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BadFish523
2.5-3k sounds about right. Starting fresh will cost you about 2.5-3k more. Mine costed me about $3100 and a reman was quoted at 5-6k. We don't know your budget or how free you are with your money. That's a decision you'll have to make. I think all were saying is that mechanic is wrong about needing a reman. Most likely you can get your engine fixed and she should last you a long time. Both options have their own benefits
Reman $3995.00 http://www.precisionengine.com/rebui...nes/f150h.html
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Old Sep 9, 2017 | 12:08 PM
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Probly should of mentioned this b4 but the problems started with the powerband not getting to where it needed to be it needed the cam phazer done but no money to drop like that so i kept driving it a couple more months, the check engine light was telling me the fuel was too rich and too lean. When i fina)y took it in the told me it was the phazers and my oil level was so low it wouldnt even show on dip stick (y dont ford have a low oil light?) So something to do with the low oil got me worry to the problem too. So i buy one of these engines i can do install myself im hoping. All internal stuff already done....
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Old Sep 9, 2017 | 12:14 PM
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I check my oil about every other week if not more often. It literally takes 30 seconds after my drive home from work before I go inside. If you don't take care of your vehicle you will have problems.
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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 03:53 PM
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Well im gonna save up for the new one but would like to ask.... if any of you were to start with a new engine and put some performance parts on it.... would you do a different type or wieght for your oil????
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