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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 05:06 AM
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Ok, so I read in a previous post that if you unhook the battery for 30 minutes or more, you force the computer into "adaptive learning" mode. Is it a good idea to do this when you make modifications to the engine. Obviously the way to go is with an XCal, but until then, will it make a difference to do this. What exactly does the computer "learn"? Also, I know from past vehicles, you can put a lower temp thermostat in to trick the computer into richining the air /fuel mixture, will that work on these trucks? Thanks for your help.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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Don't unhook the battery. Just get the X-cal and make the computer do what you want. I highly reccomend dyno tuning it though. Tennessee is not that far from Fl.. Come on down and get it done here.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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both the k&n intake and my magnaflow exhaust both said to reset the computer after the install. the reason for this is so that the computer doesnt freak out when it sees all the extra air going through the motor. the computer just learns about the new air flow and adjusts the tune accordingly. i come from years of mustang modding and same with them, after every mod, reset the computer. granted a dyno tune is the best way to teach the computer about your new mods but when thats not available, resetting the computer is best. intake and exhaust are such minor changes, there is little change to the "tune" the computer was running before the mods
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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resetting the puter still does not achieve what you need. The new SilverOak processors are completely different from the EEC-V. Air flow changes cause more abrupt A/F curve compensation or lack there of. bolting on an intake system and "resetting" the processor does not properly achieve the desired net effect. A complete reflash is vital is establishing a stoichiometric curve with an aftermarket intake kit.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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So, given that it will be awhile before I do a tuner, it will not make any difference to reset the computer after engine mods? I realize "resetting " is not as good as "recalibrating parameters". I honestly don't think it is "vital" to re-tune the truck when you bolt on a piece of pipe with a filter hanging off the end of it. You can optimize settings, but I don't see it as vital to see improvement. Just my .02

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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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So, given that it will be awhile before I do a tuner, it will not make any difference to reset the computer after engine mods. I realize "resetting " is not as good as "recalibrating parameters". I honestly don't think it is "vital" to re-tune the truck when you bolt on a piece of pipe with a filter hanging off the end of it. You can optimize settings, but I don't see it as vital to see improvement. Just my .02
ok, well, since Ive explained multiple times already and am somewhat privy to the subject.....once again...the SilverOak processors are very different from the older EEC-V. the processor and sample in a much more finite manner, they are extremely sensitive to air flow changes over the MAF wire. so, in essence, a "tube with a filter" will make an A/F curve difference. Which is why every 05-08 Mustang GT will need a tuner to go with every CAI kit on the market, but make gains of 35-45hp from such a mod. Im telling you this not to try to sell you a tuner, but as free constructive criticism/advice.....and I dont give out specific advice with a precise answer just for the hell of it.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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ok then, thank you.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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The problem is the air flow meters freak out with the extra air. These trucks are lean from the factory. More air = even leaner. Hell the new 'Stangs won't hardly run with a CAI and no tune.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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wow mustangs get a 35 - 45 hp gain with just air intake?? wow.......so many people say there is no way its so hard to know who to believe
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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I have read and posted on too many threads about CAI intakes and theses 3v motors running "TOO LEAN". How is it that people run a CAI alone with no other mods for years without a problem of any kind? I have a K&N fipk as my only mod so far, and I just don't see how this alone can cause this type of issue until you free-up the back end as well. It is not like these kits add alot of HP alone. It is only a stepping stone for future mods and that is when a tuner with custom tunes is a good idea. The anxiety of these type of threads is that many of us start our mod process with a CAI kit and may have to wait for exhaust, tuner with custom tunes, etc. Meanwhile we all do not want to be told that this is causing damage to our trucks. I encourage all in this category to get an A/F reading and either sleep easy until you are funded for modification or put the stock unit back on until you can. That is if you are running "TOO LEAN". Other wise enjoy the "RUMBLE" and save your money. Best of luck
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