FYI
You get all rebates avail with X plan. Hard to beat that price, dealer will say that they will beat it. But by just a bit. But if you do the paper work on x plan - rebates see total much less then I have had any dealer come up with.

 

I logged into the Fordpartner.com web site, was redirected to the ford.com site, which then showed me the X-Plan Pricing on my desired vehicle (or any in-stock trucks). I separately confirmed that this was correct both by running the calculations jeff2015 shows, and by talking to the dealer.

The price I have quoted even adding in the additional doc fee, is about 700 under X-Plan.

X-Plan pricing shouldn't be hard to figure out. It isn't a secret formula, and the only way it would be other than what is referenced is if the invoice you mention is different than the invoices everyone else (Edmunds, truecar, etc) references.

I think that X-Plan pricing is good. But you can do better(though, as you say, time of year and dealer might make a big difference, and you may have to work at it.). For no-haggle, no-hassle, fair deal, I think it's a safe way to go, especially if you custom order. If you're like me, you think you're leaving money on the table somewhere regardless of the deal, because no-one is closing a deal if they aren't making money on it somewhere, and I don't want to pay one penny more than I have to no matter how much I want something. The question is where are they making it and how much are they making. (Beware the F&I guy!)

 

You get xplan and rebates

 

How do you get an x plan pin by just owning ford stock???

 

rider....I have been doing this for years. My neighbor owns three Ford / Lincoln dealerships in Northeastern Ohio, and he tells me you are not seeing the AXZ plan invoice. The dealer is only required to show that invoice to customers with a pin number in hand. Like I said X-Plan is basically $1000 above dealer cost, I find it hard to believe a dealer would sell a vehilce for $300 above there cost.

 

That's fine. I don't want to get into a drawn-out argument, but it doesn't make sense that you are telling me the X-Plan price Ford shows me on their web site is not the same as the X-Plan price I would get by going into a dealership. The price I am paying is $700 less than what the Ford web site says my X-Plan price is. If that isn't correct, then I don't know what to say.

 

X plan is usually within $300 or so of invoice. We sell most of ours at about $100 over invoice. I beat x plan on every x plan that comes in. We still make holdback which varies plus gross on financing.

 

That is exactly what they do... Though usually more like $500 over true cost, including holdbacks.

They get significant additional incentives with volume, and they make up the profit with customers who pay way to much and still think they got a good deal.

 

While we aren't shown A or Z plan prices on the web site the X plan price is clearly stated for any vehicle in a dealer's inventory. All you have to do is search the dealer inventory on the Ford Partner site. The site then takes into account all incentives for your region and plainly states what you will pay using the X plan.

For the record I was able to beat X plan pricing on our new truck by roughly $3000 using a free service through Consumer Reports (I believe it's a partnership thing with Truecar.com).

 

You have to own at least 100 shares for one year.