Spare Key
Lock Dork
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we just bought a 2014 F150 Lariat extended cab. we only got one key. I bought 2 keys from EBAY ($30)and took them to a locksmith who cut them and TRIED to program them. neither seemed to work. still got charged $56. SO I ordered another 2 keys from someone else ($28) but didn't have them cut. I went to their 'help' site and the person stepped me thru programming the keys to utilize the functions on the remote (lock, unlock, remote start and horn). My curiosity got the better of me so I tried programming the keys that the locksmith had told me wouldn't program - one due to no chip - not sure about the other. I was able to successfully program both, but only one would start the truck via the ignition.
I then took the other uncut keys to get them cut.......and since I now have 2 working keys - (from previous purchase and the one I got with the truck) - I was able to program only one of those keys to do everything. again - one would do all - the other would only use the key fob functions but would not start the truck.
I'm able to return the non working keys but still have questions. seems like when I programmed the newest keys - the other lost part of their programming. not sure if I should have left them in the house? since programming for the remote function doesn't include putting those in the ignition. only hitting a button on the remote once the truck is in programming mode.
I now seem to have 3 working keys and 2 that will only work thru the remote - but won't start the truck from the ignition. one from each batch.
this brings me to this question: when putting the keys in to program the ignition you need 2 keys. I'll post the directions I followed for both below, but when you put your key in for the ignition programming - does it matter which side faces you? the fob writing side towards you for all? does it matter? I wasn't paying attention.
Does it matter which key you start with? the one that came with the truck and then the newly programmed one?
Can you only have a set amount of keys?
The programming didn't stay on one of them but when I put in a new battery - so far that seemed to help.
programming a remote:
Close all doors then open drivers door press unlock button on drivers door while door is open . Insert key into ignition. Keep foot off brake pedal. 1. Turn ignition from Off to Run 8 times ending in Run ( Do not start the car, run position is just before the vehicle will start Off is turned all the way back when the key can be removed from the ignition ). Must be performed within 10 seconds. Locks will cycle signaling entering into programming mode. 2. Press any button on the remote being programmed, locks cycle confirming programming. Repeat this step for any addition remotes. 3. Turn key to off, locks will cycle to end programming mode.
Key programming (screen shot) attached
I did order from EBAY. the dealer is the one who told me that the programming is listing in the manual. I do have a remote start. I was just confused as to why some would program to start the truck and the others wouldn't? it's as if you are only allowed to have 3 programmed keys.
As stated before, max keys is 8. The truth of it is that wherever you got it sold you bad keys and this is why I advocate buying parts and getting the job done from start to finish from a locksmith.
With that being said, it could’ve been the wrong chip, a bad chip or a missing chip.
OEM keys have the transponder chip integrated onto the circuit board. As such, the remote programs at the same time.
MOST aftermarket remotes have a transponder chip that is separate from the circuit board and must be programmed separately with the on-board procedure you listed.
When you do the on-board REMOTE procedure, you need to introduce all non-integrated remotes at once because the process clears them all.
To answer your other questions: No, it doesn’t matter which direction the key is facing, and no, it doesn’t matter what order you introduce them in as long as you go programmed key > programmed key > new key
found my problem..the lowes cut cut the new ones w/ remote start a lil off or his grinder was deep enough..that is why i can only start the truck with the cheap keys in one direction..mite be able to take to lock smith and have re cut so its groved a lil bit more so itll work eiteher way..but having remote start makes me not care to much
Post up pics of the original and new key, I can tell you at a glance if it can be salvaged or not.
The reason it turns one way and not the other is that the wafers in the lock are opposite for opposite sides of the keyway. So even spaces might be on top and odds would be on bottom (or vice versa). The miscut on the key seems to only be limited to a single cut and flipping it to the side opposite where it’s missing allows it to turn.
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I'm still searching for a place that will cut keys if purchased elsewhere. If I get the remote start kit I will have to find someone to cut them. I downloaded Forscan and ordered the ELM327 adapter from Amazon. Cutting the keys is my hurdle right now.
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Lock Dork
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Some guys won't go for it because they've already been ruined before on it but strattec makes good keys that won't harm their machines.
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I have sent messages to two places. They were closed yesterday. Hopefully they will respond, if not I will call them back. And I will explain to them why I need the key cut rather than buying from them. One of the pitfalls living in a relatively small town.
Lock Dork
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It is valid though. Some programmers that are out there can enable that functionality and program the keys but being able to say it's an OEM kit gives you a lot of legitimacy and minimizes their potential headache.
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I believe you can replace the key portion, so even on a bad cut the fob would still be good, just need to spend $10 ish bucks for a blank key.
Lock Dork
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Most places will just tell you that they can't guarantee anything since it's not a key from them. What I did was have them cut the first one, then checked it and it worked so I had them cut the 2nd.
I believe you can replace the key portion, so even on a bad cut the fob would still be good, just need to spend $10 ish bucks for a blank key.
I believe you can replace the key portion, so even on a bad cut the fob would still be good, just need to spend $10 ish bucks for a blank key.
Also yes, they can often be reshelled but it's a pain because they weren't meant to come apart.
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I wouldn't expect any guarantee when bringing my own blanks. That's only fair. The keys I'm looking at are included in a factory OEM remote start kit. So they should be quality blanks.