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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by modru2004
not exactly. some knowledge is power. there's a lot of meaningless drivel out there. many of the emoticon smilies are yellow. did that empower you?

in what way was your post beneficial to the op? to scare him into removing the tune? for what reason? because a few people had issues that may or may not have had anything to do with a tune.(issues that some untuned people have run into btw). if there had been a rash of tuned ecoboost failing that pointed at the tunes as being the culprit your post would be justified.

as it is its just fear mongering because there is no practical purpose to anything you posted.

next time someone buys a new 5.0 f150 why don't you crash that thread and post a link to the thread where the guy had to have his 5.0 short block replaced. it will serve the same purpose.

to the op, enjoy your tune! thinking about getting one myself.
We can cheerlead on this forum, or we can educate. Manufacturers choose tunes that are a balance between performance and reliability. If you increase one you decrease the other. Do stock trucks fail? Yes. Does aggressive tuning such as the OP is referring to increase failure rates? Indisputably, yes.

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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by eye.surgeon
We can cheerlead on this forum, or we can educate. Manufacturers choose tunes that are a balance between performance and reliability. If you increase one you decrease the other. Do stock trucks fail? Yes. Does aggressive tuning such as the OP is referring to increase failure rates? Indisputably, yes.
No, they don't. Manufacturers design a motor to safely run at it's expected lifetime maximum output. If you think that a 2011 EcoBoost motor is the threshold of safety, you don't know much about competitive manufacturing.

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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by eye.surgeon
We can cheerlead on this forum, or we can educate. Manufacturers choose tunes that are a balance between performance and reliability. If you increase one you decrease the other. Do stock trucks fail? Yes. Does aggressive tuning such as the OP is referring to increase failure rates? Indisputably, yes.
Although I don't disagree with your logic, I think the OP has the right to do what ever he want with his truck. And he stated in his post that he's done tons of research on the tunes. If he's done the research then he knows the risks. Posting some threads about guys who blew their motors is beyond the point.
He simply posted about how he's enjoying his tune. He was not asking you, or anyone else, what the risks are. So please. Let the guy do his review/story and take the links to the "my Ecoboost blew up" to the tune hating threads where they belong...
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brownimus
No, they don't. Manufacturers design a motor to safely run at it's expected lifetime maximum output. If you think that a 2011 EcoBoost motor is the threshold of safety, you don't know much about competitive manufacturing.

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It all depends on the amount of power being extracted beyond factory specs. I own a super charged 07 vette that puts out well over 600 hp verified with lots of dyno time. Now that's about 200+ HP over stock. Have the odds increased I can turn mine into an instant anchor? The answer is 100% without a doubt YES! I've been modding engines for over 25 years and yep… had a couple of disasters despite highly professional installs and dyno custom tunes with all the safe guards in place. You go to the strip and you will see highly modded engines puking all the time. HP is NOT FREE and it does take a certain toll.. the question is how much HP are we talking here? I hear lots of anecdotal stories about these tunes by very very few dyno charts? Be interesting to see exactly how much the HP is increased with these mild street tunes.

The question I have is how much power is being obtained from these Eco's with nothing but a tune? If it doesn't exceed 10 to 15% I'd bet it's relatively safe. However when you start pulling significant power increases the odds of something failing are increased without question Common sense says how can they not be?

I've said before folks should just be aware and plan ahead. If I stone one of my modded engines I can replace it and without playing silly games with factory warranty. Mine are not DD's so I don't care if they are down a week or 3 months… doesn't matter to me.

In this instance it appears the OP has done his due diligence and is fully aware of the potential problems. Since I do a lot of modding I'm certainly NOT against doing it providing people understand the potential ramifications….. Mod away and have fun with it all!

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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 08:11 PM
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I agree they all have risk. However, is there a tune that is more safer than others? Something between factory & mild?
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by benelli_t
I agree they all have risk. However, is there a tune that is more safer than others? Something between factory & mild?
That's going to open up a whole can of worms and no one will know for certain.
It will just be bias base opinion from whomever replies.
Almost time to unsubscribe to this thread...it's about to become another "mines better than yours" thread.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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I'm all about tuning but just some advice from someone who works for a dealership service department. The manufacture doesn't care if your tune is to recalibrate the speedo, better fuel economy or more power. All they see is it's an aftermarket tune. If a drivetrain component fails and they require engine data they will decline the repair and void your warranty. I always hear duramax drivers say "I just have it set low for better fuel economy" then they're back cause it over fueled and burnt a hole through the piston. Let's admit it, we're guys (most of us here) and want more power (including me). Just make sure you're prepared if your engine or transmission takes a crap you probably will be paying the bill. Also switching back to factory tune doesn't work. The PCM stores the last 10 or so tunes.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 08:36 PM
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All that being said I'm gonna check out some more info on this Beast tune
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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Datalog datalog datalog

Look at the knock and cat temps with the stock tune, then check them with your aftermarket tune.....if it ain't better, take it out!

I have logged stock, 5* and SSI T4 and SSI T5, both SSI tunes have less knock and lower Cat temps than the stock and 5*.

If you guys datalogged your stock tune AND knew anything about reading datalogs you would run higher octane gas in your rigs!
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mrpositraction
Datalog datalog datalog

Look at the knock and cat temps with the stock tune, then check them with your aftermarket tune.....if it ain't better, take it out!

I have logged stock, 5* and SSI T4 and SSI T5, both SSI tunes have less knock and lower Cat temps than the stock and 5*.

If you guys datalogged your stock tune AND knew anything about reading datalogs you would run higher octane gas in your rigs!
i run 90+ in mine stock. ford recommends its for towing. also my 07 ram hemi i used to have could run 87 but it was actually recommended to run 89+.
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