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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 03:30 PM
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A torque-biased variant of the Coyote is produced as an alternative to the EcoBoost V6 in the new F-150 pickup truck. The F150 5.0L receives a lower compression ratio (10.5:1), intake camshafts with less duration, cast iron exhaust manifolds, and revised cylinder heads and intake manifold intended to promote low-end and mid-range power and torque. The engine retains the Coyote's forged steel crank and piston-cooling jets but benefits from the addition of an external engine oil cooler similar to the Boss 302's. The changes result in the engine's peak horsepower dropping to 360 hp (268 kW; 365 PS) while torque remains the same as the Boss 302 at 380 lb·ft (520 N·m).[citation needed]

does this quote make sense ? cuz it doesnt seem to gain any tq. maybe its also about cost saving and longevity?
it makes plenty of sense. It is not about peak torque.
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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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The two biggest reasons are being able to lug the motor down under load for extended periods of time (hauling + towing) & burn 87 octane fuel. The 5.0 Mustang manual recommends / prefers premium fuel. Truck engines are known for & built more for torque as that's what gets the job done - hauling, pulling trailers, driving in rough terrain. The small I-4s in the imports put up impressive HP numbers for their size but have to rev pretty hard to get it. by then the torque drops off. They are quick off the line and run good on flat ground but once they hit grade or a hill they're all done. I'm not sure how well the stang does but they seem to have pretty good pull so the speed dropoff might not be as bad... So the F150 variant is built more for a flatter & longer torque curve which helps you not run out of power when you need it the most.

I hit a steep hill with a '14 trailer loaded with furniture, helping a buddy move. I was trying to be nice & not burn up the gas (he was paying for fuel) so I was taking it easy. "What the hell are you doing? Make this thing earn it!" was the comment from the passenger seat...

Okay! So I dropped the hammer on it. Set all 3 of us back in the seat & cleared the dash off to boot. the tach was running well north of 6k. with a 3v 4.6. So if my truck will do that I can only imagine what the Five oh would be like & wouldn't be possible without having a solid torque output.

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A torque-biased variant of the Coyote is produced as an alternative to the EcoBoost V6 in the new F-150 pickup truck. The F150 5.0L receives a lower compression ratio (10.5:1), intake camshafts with less duration, cast iron exhaust manifolds, and revised cylinder heads and intake manifold intended to promote low-end and mid-range power and torque. The engine retains the Coyote's forged steel crank and piston-cooling jets but benefits from the addition of an external engine oil cooler similar to the Boss 302's. The changes result in the engine's peak horsepower dropping to 360 hp (268 kW; 365 PS) while torque remains the same as the Boss 302 at 380 lb·ft (520 N·m).[citation needed]

does this quote make sense ? cuz it doesnt seem to gain any tq. maybe its also about cost saving and longevity?
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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com...x=0&Search.y=0
can you believe the local sgi salvage company wants 6000 for a used 6.2 liter truck engine with 67,000km when you can get a brand new coyote crate engine with same hp and BRAND NEW!
drool drool
i wonder if it would bolt up to my tranny and fit under my hood etc and if crate engines come with computer and wiring harness? will my alternator, ac and power steering bolt on

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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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Man this is becoming impossible I'm flip flopping back n forth between the XLT SCAB 4X4 ECO & 5.0. And then I went n test drove the Raptor... Holy god that Raptor is intense! So I will post up picks of my decision when I buy it this weekend
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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I thought this quote from the article was intersting:

"..engineered to withstand forced induction and to package EcoBoost fuel injectors in the future."

I knew it was engineered to withstand forced induction but didn't know it was also designed to package ecoboost fuel injectors in the future. That's pretty cool.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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Anybody here besides me drive a new boss? yea, it has a higher peak HP. but at the expense of puttering around. these boss motors are absolute pigs around town. may have same TQ as a truck 5.0, but at a much higher rpm. take boss to a track and put the hammer down, then the extra 80 hp shows. but certainly not in everyday normal driving.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 07:41 PM
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There's no replacement for displacement.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kmac1036

I hit a steep hill with a '14 trailer loaded with furniture, helping a buddy move. I was trying to be nice & not burn up the gas (he was paying for fuel) so I was taking it easy. "What the hell are you doing? Make this thing earn it!" was the comment from the passenger seat...

Okay! So I dropped the hammer on it. Set all 3 of us back in the seat & cleared the dash off to boot. the tach was running well north of 6k. with a 3v 4.6. So if my truck will do that I can only imagine what the Five oh would be like & wouldn't be possible without having a solid torque output.
OK, I call BS. Not with the 4.6. No. No. No.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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Reminds me of the time I jumped on the gas at a green light.
Left the trailer axles behind.
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CorvetteDreamin
OK, I call BS. Not with the 4.6. No. No. No.
if its a 2V, I agree. but the 3V was actually a pretty decent little motor. so I believe what he said.
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