'13 ecoboost issues
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You don't have to tell them there computer tells them right away if the CPU has been altered in any way(currently or in the past). I had my truck hooked up to there computer and it was the first thing he was looking for. He explained to me as we were driving w/computer connected all the checks he was running. It seems FORD is well aware of owner tinkering.
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Its too bad when something bad happens like this. I think most of the comments "kicking you" were trying to make a point that its probably gonna be a fight, cuz you re-engineered Ford's design. And because of this, it may turn out to be a fight with Ford. Your tune may have had nothing to do with your issue, but you can be pretty well sure, if its an engine problem, you will get blamed for messing with things. Most times it doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, if reasonable doubt can be put into the issue, well thats all that matters. Sorry you are having issues and I hope Ford will fix it for ya under warranty. Good Luck
Ford has to prove that it was the tune and the tune only that caused problems worth the vehicle. They can't just say "u were tuned ? ..no more warranty !" They have to prove it was the tune. Don't get me wrong a fight with ford will suck but at least they have laws in place to protect us.
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thx fasha2013... I have well over 300 miles stock. .. I been driving stock going on two weeks and the issues increased stock so it may very well be nothing to do tuned. Idk but we will find out.
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It always amazes me that people think the many tens of millions of dollars Ford spent optimizing the engine tune for a balance of performance and reliability can be improved upon by some company renting a warehouse by the airport somewhere with a dyno and a few employees. They may be able to squeeze out some extra horsepower at some unuseful extreme of the power curve but there is a price to be paid elsewhere.
Having said that, I do hope the OP gets the problem resolved and it may have nothing at all to do with the tune.
Having said that, I do hope the OP gets the problem resolved and it may have nothing at all to do with the tune.
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You are right johndeerefarmer. Stock tunes are tuned that way for various different reasons , and not just because that is the most that engine can handle while still giving you years of reliable service like some think. From power killing California emmisions to being able to handle towing 11,300 lbs even though your truck is rated for less because of it's gear ratio. The stock tune is a vanilla one-size-fits-all tune that has encompass a wide variety of truck users needs and emmisions standards. If you are not towing 11,300 lbs like stock tune is mapped to do, then you can tune it for more performance without hurting reliability. When you do need to tow that much then either return it stock or switch to a reliable tow tune. People think that automatically tuning it cuts the engine life in half even though they have no real world proof of this.
Also, if some of you guys are worried that the added performance gains will hurt your motor then some tuners like 5 Star offers tunes with only changes to the transmission. All that it does is change transmission upshifts and down shifts while also changing when the torque converter locks up. This does not hurt the transmission or the driveline. It is the same as pressing tow/hual mode on your truck, but with shift points you that you want. The only downside is slighty worse fuel economy in some cases since the stock tune shifts too early to conserve fuel.
Lastly, not all tuned trucks automatically get rejected for warranty. If the tuned cause the damage then I agree that Ford shouldn't have to pay for it, but people shouldn't have to pay for it if it was not the tunes fualt either. Case in point is cbvet.....
Just recently I had both of my turbos replaced because I'm sure of my driving habits, but anyways I returned everything to stock and unhooked the battery for 30 min and took it in. I was worried at first but they said they had to dig into the computer to find the code I was talking about and they didn't find anything. The other day I went in there for same code and get oil changed, this time I pulled the service manager aside and told him I've been tuned since 200 miles, he said he didn't give a **** and would do whatever to make sure it's not a problem in the future. He also said I can't believe we didn't see that you had it tuned when u had it in here before, I told him what I did and I also run torque app all the time. So it works and now I'm a firm believer on the dealership not noticing, but that's not to say a ford engineer can't come down and find it. Most of these custom tunes are data logged by numerous customers and are safe to run, some of them not so much. SoCal tunes are data logged to the extreme by most of us and Shawn's (SoCal) mission is to have a safe tune.
However, I do not agree with you on the 150k mile comment.
Also, if some of you guys are worried that the added performance gains will hurt your motor then some tuners like 5 Star offers tunes with only changes to the transmission. All that it does is change transmission upshifts and down shifts while also changing when the torque converter locks up. This does not hurt the transmission or the driveline. It is the same as pressing tow/hual mode on your truck, but with shift points you that you want. The only downside is slighty worse fuel economy in some cases since the stock tune shifts too early to conserve fuel.
Lastly, not all tuned trucks automatically get rejected for warranty. If the tuned cause the damage then I agree that Ford shouldn't have to pay for it, but people shouldn't have to pay for it if it was not the tunes fualt either. Case in point is cbvet.....
Just recently I had both of my turbos replaced because I'm sure of my driving habits, but anyways I returned everything to stock and unhooked the battery for 30 min and took it in. I was worried at first but they said they had to dig into the computer to find the code I was talking about and they didn't find anything. The other day I went in there for same code and get oil changed, this time I pulled the service manager aside and told him I've been tuned since 200 miles, he said he didn't give a **** and would do whatever to make sure it's not a problem in the future. He also said I can't believe we didn't see that you had it tuned when u had it in here before, I told him what I did and I also run torque app all the time. So it works and now I'm a firm believer on the dealership not noticing, but that's not to say a ford engineer can't come down and find it. Most of these custom tunes are data logged by numerous customers and are safe to run, some of them not so much. SoCal tunes are data logged to the extreme by most of us and Shawn's (SoCal) mission is to have a safe tune.
Last edited by Al Kohalic; Sep 18, 2013 at 01:54 PM.
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Ford has to also tune for emissions, and the "average" user. By having a tune, you can get it tuned for how you drive- a tow tune, a performance tune, a street tune, economy tune,etc. Ford tuned the ecoboost very conservatively- there's a lot left. I figure that with Chevy's new V8 having power ratings higher than the ecoboost Ford will turn up the power on the ecoboost- just like they did when the Powerstroke got behind in the "truck wars".
Compared to ecoboost 365HP and 420TQ. where do u find more power in the Chevy ?
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