Teaberry

I have a 2018 non-B&O 7 speaker setup that I am looking to upgrade with 6.5's and a 10" sub - my question is, if I use Forscan for low-level inputs and flat EQ, is the system going to sound any good? I am thinking no due to the flat signal, but am wondering what I would do .. the DSR1 looks like overkill to me if I am already using Forscan nor would I really know how to program the thing.

Here is my planned build, will this give me good sound or am I missing something? My goal is punchy midbass with clear warm sound. JBL seemed like a logical choice but am open to change.

JBL GTO 600c components
JBL Club 6520 coax
JL 10" TW3
Pioneer GM D9605 amp, LPF/HPF @ 80Hz
*Forscan with Parrot harness to RCAs, soundskin pro in the doors

dhmcfadin

That's a good setup to start with. A dsp can be added down the road very easily. Although, if you let us know your budget, we may be able to find better options for you.

Either way, generally a completely flat eq won't sound bad but it won't sound the best either. It really comes down to your point of reference. What systems and speakers have you listened to the really wowed you? At the end of the day, the items you have listed will give you an astounding improvement compared to what you have stock. No question about that. When building a system, you should always ask yourself "what have I heard in the past sounded really good". If you can't answer that, then you've got a blank canvas to work with and that's a good thing. Upgrade piece by piece until you're happy.

Teaberry

Honestly I haven't heard any "amazing" systems really, probably the best I have heard would just be a factory system in a higher end car like a Range Rover or something.

My last system was "okay" .. I was running Kicker KS coax 6.5's and 12" RF subs but had a very good Pioneer headunit that had custom EQs, crossovers, filters, etc. that made it sound noticeably clearer and better than stock but still lacked midbass completely - partly the speaker, mainly due to no sound dampening. I did notice how terrible a flat EQ sounded at this point.

As far as a budget, I am targeting around 1k but am flexible. I am not that knowledgeable on details like time alignment etc so I figure this was a good number to aim for before I got in over my head. Speaker-wise I chose JBL from reviews that they offer good midbass and a warm sound and to me look like a quality speaker - I know speakers are totally subjective but am open to other options too.

Teaberry

@dhmcfadin I started reading some of your other posts and responses... looks like the Dayton 408 should be in my plans and do that instead of Forscan. I may reach out to you in the future for the Dayton files. Thanks for all the info!

hotcoffee4all

Looking for some advice. I am piecing together my upgrade. Now I am ready to but the DSP and/or the Sony Amp replacement option. I want to use a RF DSR-1 but use it with a Hertz H8 for its DSP. I love its features. Should I just go with a Maestro AR instead and the T-harness then add in the Hertz H8? or run with the DSR-1 and use its DSP then link into the Hertz Amps I am buying. Any help or advice it appreciated.

dhmcfadin

Yeah! That's perfectly fine. Set the Dsr1 like this: this allows the Dsr1 to work as a pass through. No need to setup any eq, time alignment, crossovers, etc on the Dsr1. Just setup the main configuration and select this output preference.

From the Dsr1 you will run 1 set of rca's (full front channels) to your new hertz dsp/amp combo. Plug the RCA into the AUX IN L - R; auxiliary low-level stereo input on the H8. The reason I say only 1 set is because the H8 only accepts 2 channels of low level input. That particular processor is primarily designed to use high level or speaker level input but the H8 is still an excellent processor and a better tuning interface than the Dsr1. (In my opinion) You truly only need 2 channels of full frequency signal input anyways. Then the dsp is used to route those signals via crossovers. Nice and simple!

hotcoffee4all

dhmcfadin

Happy to help! Your username is appreciated lol.

fourclowns

DH,
I know your running a LC-6.1200 and a three way set up for your fronts, so I was going to with a two way, knowing I have three channel s just like that
Ch 1&2 L&R tweeters
CH 3&4 L&R woofers
Ch5&6 L&R rears
SO if you have 8 speakers, Tweeters, mids, woofers, and rears, how do you have it set up to supply power to them all with only 6 channels from your Audio Control Amp?

Are you somehow splitting power with channels 1&2 through your 8 channel Helix DSP to the front tweeters and mids?

Thanks

dhmcfadin

I am running three amps total.

6.1200
Ch 1 & 2 Tweeters
Ch 3 & 4 Mids
Ch 5 & 6 Rears

4.800 (bridged 2 x 400)
Ch 1 & 2 Midbass in doors

1.1500
Mono- Sub