The Ultimate MPG thread.
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Sorry, I did not realize this post was just for folks to tout their great mileage and that the folks with Crappy mileage were supposed to keep quiet it secret...
Since you took the trouble to reply I will respond. Probably out of order but I will try to hit the high spots.
I miss-typed, Ford replaced three plugs, they also replaced injectors 4,5,6, the CAC some wiring on the same side and then finally that turbo because they determined it had a loose impeller. They had my brand new, only having 1050 miles for three weeks. I was given a loaner and stuff happens. They kept in contact and got it fixed but to be clear my truck died on the side of the road with 1050 miles.
If you had really read the post instead of giving me the party line stock answers you would see that I said i did not drive like a grandma or racer but somewhere in between. I did step on it when I got it to see what I could do and got better mpg on the first two tanks before it broke than I am getting now. I have also in trying to improve tried different driving styles and have seen little to know difference. I know about the helpful hints you provided and employee them when I can, I am not just whining I am trying to do what I can to see if anything makes a difference. I have also hand calculated and my computer is pretty close.
I check the tires regularly and know my two gauges are accurate. I play with the pressure on my bronco because even a pound or two really affects handling.
You asked why do I care about the mpg. I will give you a couple of reasons, I hear folks all around me getting 5 mpg better than my truck, I got better mpg on my 2010 Ford Expedition, I think it is bs hearing from the dealer that it may take 15,000 miles for it to get better, but maybe the biggest one is that I like to see the range to empty and Ford in their wisdom has decided to throw in large numbers my Crappy mileage right on the same screen. I can't get away from it. I am STILL only getting about 13.7 mpg out of a tank. It has not gotten any better and I am not on winter blend fuel like I was when I bought it.
I am fortunate, I can afford to put gas in it but that should not mean that I should accept a Crappy under performing engine. Love the truck, HATE the mpg.
Since you took the trouble to reply I will respond. Probably out of order but I will try to hit the high spots.
I miss-typed, Ford replaced three plugs, they also replaced injectors 4,5,6, the CAC some wiring on the same side and then finally that turbo because they determined it had a loose impeller. They had my brand new, only having 1050 miles for three weeks. I was given a loaner and stuff happens. They kept in contact and got it fixed but to be clear my truck died on the side of the road with 1050 miles.
If you had really read the post instead of giving me the party line stock answers you would see that I said i did not drive like a grandma or racer but somewhere in between. I did step on it when I got it to see what I could do and got better mpg on the first two tanks before it broke than I am getting now. I have also in trying to improve tried different driving styles and have seen little to know difference. I know about the helpful hints you provided and employee them when I can, I am not just whining I am trying to do what I can to see if anything makes a difference. I have also hand calculated and my computer is pretty close.
I check the tires regularly and know my two gauges are accurate. I play with the pressure on my bronco because even a pound or two really affects handling.
You asked why do I care about the mpg. I will give you a couple of reasons, I hear folks all around me getting 5 mpg better than my truck, I got better mpg on my 2010 Ford Expedition, I think it is bs hearing from the dealer that it may take 15,000 miles for it to get better, but maybe the biggest one is that I like to see the range to empty and Ford in their wisdom has decided to throw in large numbers my Crappy mileage right on the same screen. I can't get away from it. I am STILL only getting about 13.7 mpg out of a tank. It has not gotten any better and I am not on winter blend fuel like I was when I bought it.
I am fortunate, I can afford to put gas in it but that should not mean that I should accept a Crappy under performing engine. Love the truck, HATE the mpg.
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I am going to drive it for another 750 miles, take it in for the oil change and leave it there for them to run further tests on it. If it comes back and they say it is all good I will see what options I have for escalation.
It is funny to me - I never paid a lot of attention in the Expedition or any of my other cars - I knew you could see average MPG, etc... but never took the time to drill down and look at it - I figured I drive a big, gas guzzler and it is what it is... On this F-150 - Ford decided to throw the darn MPG right in my face on a couple of menu's I like to use - so I see it every day that my MPG stinks...
Would I have bought this truck if I had known that I was going to get this MPG - probably but I would have been able to make an informed choice. I am 6'-6" and love the leg room for the driver and especially like the leg room in the back seat for my 6'-3" 14 year old who is still growing. No other truck in it's class fits me this well...
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I am going to drive it for another 750 miles, take it in for the oil change and leave it there for them to run further tests on it. If it comes back and they say it is all good I will see what options I have for escalation.
It is funny to me - I never paid a lot of attention in the Expedition or any of my other cars - I knew you could see average MPG, etc... but never took the time to drill down and look at it - I figured I drive a big, gas guzzler and it is what it is... On this F-150 - Ford decided to throw the darn MPG right in my face on a couple of menu's I like to use - so I see it every day that my MPG stinks...
Would I have bought this truck if I had known that I was going to get this MPG - probably but I would have been able to make an informed choice. I am 6'-6" and love the leg room for the driver and especially like the leg room in the back seat for my 6'-3" 14 year old who is still growing. No other truck in it's class fits me this well...
It is funny to me - I never paid a lot of attention in the Expedition or any of my other cars - I knew you could see average MPG, etc... but never took the time to drill down and look at it - I figured I drive a big, gas guzzler and it is what it is... On this F-150 - Ford decided to throw the darn MPG right in my face on a couple of menu's I like to use - so I see it every day that my MPG stinks...
Would I have bought this truck if I had known that I was going to get this MPG - probably but I would have been able to make an informed choice. I am 6'-6" and love the leg room for the driver and especially like the leg room in the back seat for my 6'-3" 14 year old who is still growing. No other truck in it's class fits me this well...
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If the loaner was an F150 and you got better mileage then that'd be more evidence that there is something wrong with the truck. I mean….it's *you* or *the truck* and if it's the truck then it should be a fixable problem.
What's your instant mileage when going 60mph on flat ground with no wind? It should be over 20 for sure, if it's hovering in the mid-teens then I'd say that's pretty solid evidence that something is wrong with the truck.
What's your instant mileage when going 60mph on flat ground with no wind? It should be over 20 for sure, if it's hovering in the mid-teens then I'd say that's pretty solid evidence that something is wrong with the truck.
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Just for your own protection and piece of mind, check the lemon laws in your state. In some, they require the truck be in for service for X number of days, repaired for the same problem 3 or 4 times within 12 months, have less than X number of miles and/or be less than X months old.
Once you have the lemon law in hand, you can decide how to proceed and know your rights.
My guess the dealer will put off acting on the lemon law until you are timed out of it.
Just to give you an idea, my 2007 5.4L 4X4 pulls the same mileage as you posted, and that's with no cargo. That's with the 4 speed automatic. Ecoboost is supposed to beat the big engine with ease.
Once you have the lemon law in hand, you can decide how to proceed and know your rights.
My guess the dealer will put off acting on the lemon law until you are timed out of it.
Just to give you an idea, my 2007 5.4L 4X4 pulls the same mileage as you posted, and that's with no cargo. That's with the 4 speed automatic. Ecoboost is supposed to beat the big engine with ease.
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Since we've been in touch before, all I'll need is a PM from you with your current mileage and a verification of your best daytime phone number. I'm on the case!
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If the loaner was an F150 and you got better mileage then that'd be more evidence that there is something wrong with the truck. I mean….it's *you* or *the truck* and if it's the truck then it should be a fixable problem.
What's your instant mileage when going 60mph on flat ground with no wind? It should be over 20 for sure, if it's hovering in the mid-teens then I'd say that's pretty solid evidence that something is wrong with the truck.
What's your instant mileage when going 60mph on flat ground with no wind? It should be over 20 for sure, if it's hovering in the mid-teens then I'd say that's pretty solid evidence that something is wrong with the truck.
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Just for your own protection and piece of mind, check the lemon laws in your state. In some, they require the truck be in for service for X number of days, repaired for the same problem 3 or 4 times within 12 months, have less than X number of miles and/or be less than X months old.
Once you have the lemon law in hand, you can decide how to proceed and know your rights.
My guess the dealer will put off acting on the lemon law until you are timed out of it.
Just to give you an idea, my 2007 5.4L 4X4 pulls the same mileage as you posted, and that's with no cargo. That's with the 4 speed automatic. Ecoboost is supposed to beat the big engine with ease.
Once you have the lemon law in hand, you can decide how to proceed and know your rights.
My guess the dealer will put off acting on the lemon law until you are timed out of it.
Just to give you an idea, my 2007 5.4L 4X4 pulls the same mileage as you posted, and that's with no cargo. That's with the 4 speed automatic. Ecoboost is supposed to beat the big engine with ease.