akbrian

perhaps I am not understanding. Using the example an EV versus ICE 80% of the time your cost is 66% less . 20% of the time it 5-10% more. Still works out to be less than half the cost of gas.

I was definitely concerned about the battery but with an 8 year warranty and 75% Capacity being the cutoff I assume they know something more about the battery than I do. The only limits in the warranty are extended period of low charge. I have Never had a phone battery last for more than Two years so if they want to say it will last 8 or they will replace it I am good. Perhaps by then they will have made it through all the initial reservations

Jason Hall

Phones don't have liquid cooled batteries, and the chemistry is designed for energy density, not longevity. Most consumers swap phones every 2 to 4 years anyway. I put 37,000 miles on my Focus Electric since 2/21 and it has nearly the same range as when I purchased it. I check battery capacity periodically and it has lost less than 1 kWh of capacity, which equates to 3.5 miles of range. It's 100 miles of range is adequate for getting around town and we use public chargers 2 - 4 times per month. I bought it used to stop running up miles on my Expedition and it's served that purpose very well.

akbrian

that’s awesome your battery is maintaining well. I hope the lightning ER batteries do the same.

how are you checking battery capacity?

kendive

So where you getting 4 Cent a kWh for power??? I live in one of the most cheapest places and still not that cheap. LOL

Electric Cars and Esp Trucks makes no sense to me.

akbrian

can’t speak for OP but .04 $/kWh might be possible in some very small local markets or if you spend thousands on solar system but .10-.25 $/kWh is more realistic for home charging. Unless you live in CA where it’s crazy expensive for power.

I made the jump to lightning from 2019 3.5ecoboost. I didn’t buy it to save the planet or because it’s way more efficient, I got it cause it a blast to drive. Fits what I do perfectly and as a benefit I have saved over 300$ monthly on elec versus gas for same amount of driving. To put in perspective I get really crappy electric mileage cause it is cold but my ICE truck would need to get 38MPG to breakeven with lightning in winter and over 50MPG in summer.

kendive

Small local markets are usually higher. They typically feed off a big power company and resale to you.

I live in Florida and have a very good solar laws that make it great to own solar. Hell you should setup you own small array just to charge that truck if you are in a good area... I would look into that. Make it totally free to drive the truck.

We have a small 9630 Enphase system. That I installed pretty cheap. It has been worth every penny we have like a $26 electric bill that is just for the meter. We get credit every year that just about covers that small bill for most of the year. We live a 2500 sq ft house with a three care garage but I have done things to make our energy bill low and it's just the wife and I kids and grand kids are on there own but very close to us.

And to top it off with the Tax Credit it really made sense to get solar for us. Like you said everyone has different situations for anything.

I am having the Enphase Whole House Battery system installed. Just for the wife because I travel for work. Getting 30 % off that. Makes it close to what a POS Generac air cooled junk generator would cost nowadays. I paid cash for the solar and the battery system. That makes it even better for us. This will be our retirement home

Jason Hall

Forscan enables access the BMS, which provides a capacity number for the battery.

mass-hole

People also usually let their phone batteries charge to 100% and discharge close to 0% when 80% to 20% is really the range you want to stay in for longevity. I try to plug my phone in before it gets below 20%.

I think most of the EV's do this automatically. AFAIK the battery capacity is actually larger than advertised to allow for it. I do the same thing when charging my LiFePO4 batteries in my trailer, I will only allow them to charge up to like 80-90%.

My electric bill here averages ~$50 if we don't have a bad summer and need to run the AC 24/7(due to forest fires not heat). I have a hard time justifying solar for a few thousand dollars to save at most $50.

If I want to do it, I need to buy an electric car and convert nearly everything in my house to electric instead of NG just to consume enough to offset the cost of the panels.

I was talking to a guy who owns a roofing company and he built his house with the roof oriented specifically with Solar in mind. He said he actually has to try to use electricity to make the panels work for him. He bought electric space heaters so he doesn't use the normal NG forced air.

Jason Hall

My Focus Electric displays 100% when the battery is actually around 95%. Not sure of the buffer on the bottom end, but I know there is one since over discharging will destroy the battery. I'm around 50K miles, and the degradation has been minimal. I don't know what the original pack capacity is, but I measured it at 20K when I got the car and again after driving 21,000 miles, and pack capacity was down .4 kWh. Interestingly, my Galaxy S21 has an option to limit charge to 85%,which I began using since I don't like switching phones frequently.

mass-hole

I wish the iphone would do that, they instead have a feature that stops charging at 80% until it thinks you are going to need the phone and then finishes charging(so when you normally wake up). I try to charge it to 80% before I fall asleep and then unplug it.