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Old Nov 20, 2021 | 06:07 PM
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Wow. Some good advice. Thank you. Not ideal putting money down for sure. But I feel it also maybe puts some weight behind me as I put money down on an agreed upon term. I defiantly did not, and do not see anywhere that states they can pull this kind of thing in the X-Plan documents. Especially something I didn’t agree too. X-Plan has pretty strict rules for what a dealer can do. We shall see. I’m definitely not walking away easily. Need a truck in the end. Not much out there right low.

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Old Nov 20, 2021 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AnejoHabanos
Wow. Some good advice. Thank you. Not ideal putting money down for sure. But I feel it also maybe puts some weight behind me as I put money down on an agreed upon term. I defiantly did not, and do not see anywhere that states they can pull this kind of thing in the X-Plan documents. Especially something I didn’t agree too. X-Plan has pretty strict rules for what a dealer can do. We shall see. I’m definitely not walking away easily. Need a truck in the end. Not much out there right low.

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Yeah, X-Plan has very strict rules around what the dealer can do as far as the sale price of the truck itself, and around doc fees and that. But anything after that is up to you and the dealer.

For example, I bought my truck on A-Plan, but the dealer offered the wheel/tire protection and also would have sold me an extended warranty if I asked. Those are add-ons and not part of my A-Plan deal.

The dealer can also not accept X-Plan if they wish, which many have been doing.

I worry what your dealer is doing is drawing people in with offers of X-Plan pricing, just to hit them with this Ford Armor package to make up the difference. Someone thinks they are getting a deal on the truck while everyone else is paying MSRP, so may as well get the Ford Armor package! It's basically free now!

Thankfully, you don't seem willing to fall for that. The next step really comes down to how they react.
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Old Nov 20, 2021 | 07:01 PM
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Do not walk on principle, that is bad advice in this market and is a habit some still have from when trucks would sit on a lot for weeks. In this market they will have sold your truck to someone else before your taillights are out of view.
Really bad advice is telling someone to just accept a shady dealer adding BS after the fact. That's the kind of stereotypical crap that a lot of dealers have done to earn that reputation. ​​​​​​​I know they'll instantly sell the truck, and would not give two ****s about it.
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Old Nov 20, 2021 | 07:03 PM
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Contact Ford! Ask them if this is how an X Plan member is suppose to be treated!
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Old Nov 20, 2021 | 08:03 PM
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Really bad advice is telling someone to just accept a shady dealer adding BS after the fact. That's the kind of stereotypical crap that a lot of dealers have done to earn that reputation. ​​​​​​​I know they'll instantly sell the truck, and would not give two ****s about it.
Nobody anywhere said to accept them adding stuff after the fact, what was said is to push back and give them a chance to drop it, and if they don't then move on. Huge difference. There is nothing to gain by walking away from the dealer is the point, he will be out a truck at a period of time where people have waited up to a year to get their order. Not everyone can just start over on that depending on situation just because a dealer tries to pull something shady.

My point about not just walking away is it does no good. You aren't voting with your wallet. It isn't going to make a single difference to the dealer because they will still sell the truck almost immediately, you win nothing and the fact that the dealer is trying to push this package doesn't change anything about the truck itself.

So he should get the truck for the originally agreed to deal, and if he can't then he can move on. It's really easy to tell someone to just walk away when you aren't the one that has been waiting all this time and likely has no alternatives.

If this was 2018 when trucks were plentiful and order turnaround teams were 4-6 weeks, then yeah, walk away. Probably three dealers within 10 miles with the same truck or close enough. But that isn't the case right now, and I sure hope that isn't new information.
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Old Nov 20, 2021 | 08:08 PM
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Contact Ford! Ask them if this is how an X Plan member is suppose to be treated!
Ford will do exactly nothing because they don't own the dealers and their agreements with the dealer groups limits what they can do. I am not saying this from a guess either, I work at Ford and I submitted the issue another member here had to the new team Ford set up to resolve issues for friends/family of Ford employees that weren't getting resolution. It has been an outstanding service in a couple cases, and someone on here had a dealer upcharge them or something, I forget now, and I submitted the issue. It was the only time the team came back and said they couldn't do much because effectively once the vehicle is at the dealer, the dealer owns it. Ford has a "Pay Point" at all the factories where a vehicle is essentially considered bought, either by the dealer or by a private party purchase (like when you order a truck). Once it is bought by the dealer/customer, they can't do much.

This has come up in some of our global town halls also around dealers adding ADM and other stuff. Ford can try and work with dealers to limit it, and I think they have tried to punish some dealers by limiting order allocation if they are putting ADM on certain vehicles, but that isn't the case in the current climate.
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Old Nov 20, 2021 | 08:31 PM
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You put $1000 down and spent thousands more on wheels/tires for a truck you don't own yet.

You vested yourself in this "deal"

I would tell the dealer/salesperson to go have sex with themselves! No Way would I buy this truck!!
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Old Nov 20, 2021 | 08:48 PM
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My point about not just walking away is it does no good. You aren't voting with your wallet.
You're absolutely voting with your wallet when you refuse to give that particular dealer a dime. I guess some people are ok with being lied to. I am not.
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Old Nov 21, 2021 | 11:46 AM
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Contact Ford! Ask them if this is how an X Plan member is suppose to be treated!
LOL X-plan member. Best one yet. Member of what? So the dealer should lick boots to sell their products at a lower price and make less profit especially in this market?
Ford will tell you to kick rocks basically.
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Old Nov 21, 2021 | 12:28 PM
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So the dealer should lick boots to sell their products at a lower price and make less profit especially in this market?
If they don't want to "lick boots" in this market then they shouldn't voluntarily participate in a Ford program to only misrepresent it by adding bs costs after the fact.
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