[QUOTE=pawprint;7016991]Tech isn't a living thing, it doesn't "keep up", so I still don't get your point. It isn't like a toddler chasing after its bigger brother.

Humans are what determine the state of technology, and if there isn't investment, it doesn't happen. The hydrogen bomb didn't invent itself, the moon lander didn't suddenly burst into existence fully formed. It required significant hours and investment. ICE vehicles have had that investment, and EVs haven't. There isn't a "you may be correct" about it, it's pure fact. On ocassion someone has dabbled in EVs again, like the GM EV, which people loved and GM had to force them to return, but they haven't received nearly the attention.

So while you are correct in that EVs aren't at the same level of developmental maturity as ICE vehicles, that isn't a problem with EVs. You keep repeating something that is irrelevant. It's like saying the sky is blue without concern for why. A five year old can tell the sky is blue, it isn't a sign of some grand intelligence to identify that. I would say it's pretty incredible that with really only push from a single company, and a start up at that, that in roughly ten years they have reached parity with something that has received 100 years of non-stop development and countless billions in R&D is pretty incredible.

 

[QUOTE=vulnox;7017035]hahahaha, good one, really smart and witty!!! Of course nothing but humans keep up when it comes to tech!!!! I hope no one is out there thinking it keeps up on its own! HAHAHAHA, man that is a good gone.. I Guess I should Have Said, Humans (people) Did Not Research enough to keep EV at a PACE most other Techs are, today. But you sure have a keen eye, and a terrific wit, yes sir. To be clear, If I alluded to some strange self researching tech, I did not mean to, no sir!

 

Let's be honest, if energy independence means producing more than is imported, in other words making more (pumping, generating etc.) more in the US than is consumed in the U.S. then Yes Sir, we were Energy Independent in the year 2019 we were!!!!! Does this mean we didn't import any fuel from other places during that time, no, it means we made more than we used, thus independent. Hope this helps.

 

I'm 99% certain that is not true for crude/gasoline production.

 

And yet, look at how amazing humans made the tech in about the last decade.

Just think how incredibly far it will go in the next 10-20 years.

Our slow, weak, loud, "what's that noise", toxic exhaust, oil leaking dinosaur burners are going to seem about as modern and relevant as a 1920's steam locomotive

 

Was this one of those by-invitation events, or you just heard about it and showed up? I would love to do one of these, but haven't heard of any in Ohio.

 

Invitation. Chicago and Detroit had them.

O_io? Not so much..?

 

lol.... yeah, I get it. Xichigan has every right to avoid OHIO.

 

It was pretty private, reserved a lightning and was invited. They were also training some police about the new explorer police cars and some dealers. Not a crazy amount of people where there. I wish they would have let us drive the truck. But the drivers there were very aggressive and made you hold on ( which was cool ).
Finally got to see a new bronco briefly. a corp executive was there with one, but he was leaving right when I showed up. Was a 4dr Bronco-Badlands- Area 51. looked pretty cool. Just like the wrangler, the Bronco does have rattles and wind noise.
The lightning weighs more than my Steel 2014 F150, but does not ride like a heavy truck at all. The way the 4 independent suspension is setup, a Level kit will surely be available by the time these hit dealers summer 2022. Just weird not seeing a ICE. Looks like a large scale RC toy

 

agreed. The Lightning needs its own area.