Coyote V8 belt driven oil pump?
The new belt driven oil pump design is stronger and more reliable than the direct drive off the crank oil pumps when more HP is added. The direct drive oil pumps are still being used on the Mustangs for now. I believe 2023 you will see the Mustang change over to belt driven oil pump. The new belt driven oil pump serves multiple functions now. It has been designed to act as a windage tray between oil pan and crank. It also eliminates the use of a separate pickup tube. The belt driven oil pump also helped in the redesign of the steel oil pan for 2021!
I believe pre 2021 both Roush and Ford recommend that when any horsepower additive is installed like the stage 1 to stage 3 and above supercharger kits that a high-flow high volume Billet oil pump be installed. The new OEM belt driven oil pump is a high volume hi flow. This new oil pump also assist in the cylinder deactivation with more lubrication to the cylinder heads, lash Adjusters and solenoids!
Now personally I can't speak of the failure rates of the belts or pumps, but let me tell you, when you go into the dyno and watch the freeze-thaw durability testing you would be absolutely amazed at what these motors can do. The sound ain't half-bad either!
I believe pre 2021 both Roush and Ford recommend that when any horsepower additive is installed like the stage 1 to stage 3 and above supercharger kits that a high-flow high volume Billet oil pump be installed. The new OEM belt driven oil pump is a high volume hi flow. This new oil pump also assist in the cylinder deactivation with more lubrication to the cylinder heads, lash Adjusters and solenoids!
Now personally I can't speak of the failure rates of the belts or pumps, but let me tell you, when you go into the dyno and watch the freeze-thaw durability testing you would be absolutely amazed at what these motors can do. The sound ain't half-bad either!
The new belt driven oil pump design is stronger and more reliable than the direct drive off the crank oil pumps when more HP is added. The direct drive oil pumps are still being used on the Mustangs for now. I believe 2023 you will see the Mustang change over to belt driven oil pump. The new belt driven oil pump serves multiple functions now. It has been designed to act as a windage tray between oil pan and crank. It also eliminates the use of a separate pickup tube. The belt driven oil pump also helped in the redesign of the steel oil pan for 2021!
I believe pre 2021 both Roush and Ford recommend that when any horsepower additive is installed like the stage 1 to stage 3 and above supercharger kits that a high-flow high volume Billet oil pump be installed. The new OEM belt driven oil pump is a high volume hi flow. This new oil pump also assist in the cylinder deactivation with more lubrication to the cylinder heads, lash Adjusters and solenoids!
Now personally I can't speak of the failure rates of the belts or pumps, but let me tell you, when you go into the dyno and watch the freeze-thaw durability testing you would be absolutely amazed at what these motors can do. The sound ain't half-bad either!
I believe pre 2021 both Roush and Ford recommend that when any horsepower additive is installed like the stage 1 to stage 3 and above supercharger kits that a high-flow high volume Billet oil pump be installed. The new OEM belt driven oil pump is a high volume hi flow. This new oil pump also assist in the cylinder deactivation with more lubrication to the cylinder heads, lash Adjusters and solenoids!
Now personally I can't speak of the failure rates of the belts or pumps, but let me tell you, when you go into the dyno and watch the freeze-thaw durability testing you would be absolutely amazed at what these motors can do. The sound ain't half-bad either!
And of course the next question is can it be retrofitted to a pre-2021 5.0L Coyote?
Just curious Rich, I see you have been a member since 2012 but yet you have a total of 4 posts in 9 years? Where have you been hiding?
BTW, most of those "typical Coyote sounds" were not present in the gen 1 and gen 2 Coyote. Those so-called rattles and clangs are the one thing that would keep me from buying another Coyote powered anything. If I could change anything about my '18 F-150 it would be those so-called and very embarrassing sounding rattles and clangs.
BTW, most of those "typical Coyote sounds" were not present in the gen 1 and gen 2 Coyote. Those so-called rattles and clangs are the one thing that would keep me from buying another Coyote powered anything. If I could change anything about my '18 F-150 it would be those so-called and very embarrassing sounding rattles and clangs.
Me, I'm more of a snowmobile and atv guy!
Honestly, forgot I was even a member here! Lol
I'm glad I found my way back!
As for the the noises of the coyote, they absolutely drive me bonkers. The VCT's, Cam Phaser and 16 fuel injectors (8 regular and 8 direct injected) are the worst offenders. I know it doesn't affect performance but it is a noisy design! As for a noises between generation it's kinda hard to compare when you keep adding new technology. The new 21 engine may look very similar to previous years from the outside but are very different on the inside.
Make that #5. LoL
Honestly, forgot I was even a member here! Lol
I'm glad I found my way back!
As for the the noises of the coyote, they absolutely drive me bonkers. The VCT's, Cam Phaser and 16 fuel injectors (8 regular and 8 direct injected) are the worst offenders. I know it doesn't affect performance but it is a noisy design! As for a noises between generation it's kinda hard to compare when you keep adding new technology. The new 21 engine may look very similar to previous years from the outside but are very different on the inside.
Make that #5. LoL
Last edited by PolarisRich; Mar 11, 2021 at 11:58 AM.
The new belt driven oil pump design is stronger and more reliable than the direct drive off the crank oil pumps when more HP is added. The direct drive oil pumps are still being used on the Mustangs for now. I believe 2023 you will see the Mustang change over to belt driven oil pump. The new belt driven oil pump serves multiple functions now. It has been designed to act as a windage tray between oil pan and crank. It also eliminates the use of a separate pickup tube. The belt driven oil pump also helped in the redesign of the steel oil pan for 2021!
I believe pre 2021 both Roush and Ford recommend that when any horsepower additive is installed like the stage 1 to stage 3 and above supercharger kits that a high-flow high volume Billet oil pump be installed. The new OEM belt driven oil pump is a high volume hi flow. This new oil pump also assist in the cylinder deactivation with more lubrication to the cylinder heads, lash Adjusters and solenoids!
Now personally I can't speak of the failure rates of the belts or pumps, but let me tell you, when you go into the dyno and watch the freeze-thaw durability testing you would be absolutely amazed at what these motors can do. The sound ain't half-bad either!
I believe pre 2021 both Roush and Ford recommend that when any horsepower additive is installed like the stage 1 to stage 3 and above supercharger kits that a high-flow high volume Billet oil pump be installed. The new OEM belt driven oil pump is a high volume hi flow. This new oil pump also assist in the cylinder deactivation with more lubrication to the cylinder heads, lash Adjusters and solenoids!
Now personally I can't speak of the failure rates of the belts or pumps, but let me tell you, when you go into the dyno and watch the freeze-thaw durability testing you would be absolutely amazed at what these motors can do. The sound ain't half-bad either!
Yes sir, the new truck does have a 5.0. Very happy to be getting back into the the naturally aspirated V8 segment of the F-150. The last 5.0 I had was a 16 and I was extremely happy with it. Like you said, it was bulletproof! Moved up to 2 different 3.5 then to a 2.7 in my current 19. Tomorrow into the new Five-O.
As for durability I really can't speak too much about it. Maybe in a few months from now I can give some information on my findings with my vehicle.
As for some of the standard issues like oil consumption I know that our engineers have been working diligently to tackle the issue and we've made several changes to help combat this issue. For example we've changed the ring pack for the Pistons to a new style that is a little more robust and steals better against the cross hatching in the cylinder walls. There are other changes but sadly I am not at Liberty to talk about at this time.
As for durability I really can't speak too much about it. Maybe in a few months from now I can give some information on my findings with my vehicle.
As for some of the standard issues like oil consumption I know that our engineers have been working diligently to tackle the issue and we've made several changes to help combat this issue. For example we've changed the ring pack for the Pistons to a new style that is a little more robust and steals better against the cross hatching in the cylinder walls. There are other changes but sadly I am not at Liberty to talk about at this time.
Yes sir, the new truck does have a 5.0. Very happy to be getting back into the the naturally aspirated V8 segment of the F-150. The last 5.0 I had was a 16 and I was extremely happy with it. Like you said, it was bulletproof! Moved up to 2 different 3.5 then to a 2.7 in my current 19. Tomorrow into the new Five-O.
As for durability I really can't speak too much about it. Maybe in a few months from now I can give some information on my findings with my vehicle.
As for some of the standard issues like oil consumption I know that our engineers have been working diligently to tackle the issue and we've made several changes to help combat this issue. For example we've changed the ring pack for the Pistons to a new style that is a little more robust and steals better against the cross hatching in the cylinder walls. There are other changes but sadly I am not at Liberty to talk about at this time.
As for durability I really can't speak too much about it. Maybe in a few months from now I can give some information on my findings with my vehicle.
As for some of the standard issues like oil consumption I know that our engineers have been working diligently to tackle the issue and we've made several changes to help combat this issue. For example we've changed the ring pack for the Pistons to a new style that is a little more robust and steals better against the cross hatching in the cylinder walls. There are other changes but sadly I am not at Liberty to talk about at this time.



