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Old Oct 28, 2022 | 05:27 PM
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every time i get an oil change at dealer, its overfilled by 1 liter, oil is in the twist of the dipstick above the top hole (2.7 liter truck). would having a front 2" level affect the oil reading that much or is it infact being over filled?
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Old Oct 28, 2022 | 06:41 PM
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Put the oil level between the marks.

You're doing your own oil change, no need to worry about where the service department filled it to (aside from comparison, however you already assume it's overfilled).

There is a wide range of low/high on the dipstick.
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Old Oct 28, 2022 | 06:58 PM
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The 2" level actually makes a big difference. I parked on a slight down grade to simulate a stock stance and it was almost perfect level on dipstick. I’m assuming it reading high is because of front level

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Old Oct 28, 2022 | 07:14 PM
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On my last 2.7 I had a similar issue and as I recall, the oil takes a long time (15+ minutes) to drain down into the pan so you’re supposed to wait to check for accurate reading.
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Old Oct 28, 2022 | 07:25 PM
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ya the waiting is not the issue i'm referring too.
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Old Oct 28, 2022 | 08:07 PM
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I don't know, A quick drawing raising the front 2" exactly pivoting from the rear wheel, with 157" between front and rear wheel is only 3/4 of a degree.

Pivoting a rectangle that represents an engine block with a horizontal line in it only changes by about 3/6" through an imaginary dipstick, with the dipstick being a little behind the front wheel. It would be about 3/4" if the dipstick is about the wheel centerline.
I can see that being significant.

Doesn't change the fact that if you don't show as over filled when you finished then you should be fine.

If you trust the level you see right now, find a way to create yourself a baseline.
Drive it until it is hot and start a stop watch or timer for about 3 minutes. Check the level. Repeat this exercise once you complete the oil change. If your oil level matches your baseline, you should be good to go.
Alternatively, check it stone cold for a baseline.
Do your oil change and check it a while after you finish the change. Compare the 2 levels.

If you wait too long to check the oil, it will cool off and affect the oil level. You ideally need to find a time period that makes you happy and not allow the oil to cool too much.

Does the owners manual indicate when to check the oil level. Like does it literally say wait 15 minutes or does it say to check it within 2 minutes or something like that.
IF the manual has a specified instruction, follow that. Waiting 15 minutes for it to drain and cool off could be notably different than 2 minutes hot.
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Old Oct 29, 2022 | 06:02 AM
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So where are you guys with a front level leaving the oil level on dipstick? At top hole?
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Old Oct 29, 2022 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Tammikm
So where are you guys with a front level leaving the oil level on dipstick? At top hole?
Within the hash marks. Any properly designed sump dipstick/engine won't create any issues for the owner or the engine if the front end of the vehicle is 2" higher or 2" lower.

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Old Oct 29, 2022 | 06:30 AM
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oh really, so my dealer is always overfilling my oil? it shows way over top hole in the twist on the stick on my 2.7
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Old Oct 29, 2022 | 06:34 AM
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oh really, so my dealer is always overfilling my oil? it shows way over top hole in the twist on the stick on my 2.7
I don't know how your dealer is filling your oil pan, but I can assure you they don't take the time for a perfect fill. They could be very well overfilling.

I change my own oil now, so I avoid that problem. Anywhere in the hatch on relatively even ground, you're good to go.
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