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I've learn my lesson...I would listen to ^^^^^^^ this guy.

Mike

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PD blowers are better for heavy (relatively speaking) trucks. They make big torque basically just off idle, which is what you need to get the weight moving. Centris make power higher in the rpm range, and usually can make higher ultimate horsepower. Yes, they can be tweaked to make power lower in the rpm range but you typically then sacrifice upper end horsepower.

If I am doing a 2018 5.0 I am dropping a Whipple on it, pulleying it down, running 93, tweaking the programming and calling it a day. I had a pullied down MP112 on my 2002 Z71 Avalanche. Stalled it, cammed it, mid-length headers, OEM 4.10s. OEM was 285 hp and I was pushing 475. I owned the truck for 14 years and it was a blast. Can't imagine what 700 hp in a 2018 4X4 F-150 that weighs 1000 pounds less than the Avalanche would be like, other than even more fun!

Brownimus

I believe Lansgtons Alternative Power assisted with this build for 5Star. It's just a Procharger into a 2018 GT manifold, through eBay "DNA Motoring" headers and green Magnaflow cats, exiting through a modified Raptor exhaust .

830 horse. Prochargers aren't cheap, obviously - but for you guys building up slow - it proves that big dollar intake and exhaust systems aren't required for much other than shine. No one is going to say that a set of Chinese short tubes are "better" than a set of Kooks or SW - but those results speak for.themselves. That whole set up is less than 1000 worth of parts. Do it yourself or find cheap labor and even an N/A truck will see significant HP/dollar on that build list. A centri will take it to the next level. We're spoiled for options on these trucks. It's great!

VRP

We all know a whipple makes more torque way down low off the rip, But this is not a Whipple VS Centrifugal thread... For what both platforms make peak HP wise (almost identical if same boost) the large cost difference is just not there for me.. And just some food for thought the highest HP 2018 F150 is currently powered by a Procharger and was already posted in this thread!

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While fast as hell, that is also a single cab short bed... Nobody has turned up one of those lighter trucks with a centri yet! I dont even like blowers im a turbo guy which have unmatched torque, This is just about simplicity and power per dollar on the truck setup.. Id wager the procharger install takes half the time of the whipple also..

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I installed my own Whipple, could you post the installation instructions on a Procharger? I haven't been able to find anything.

I would like to make a comparison to what is involved and if any custom fabrication is required. Keeping an open mind here.

Also factor in expensive dyno time tuning for dialing in to the cost, or 3rd party custom tunes.

5star posted in this tread. Do they have a email tune available for a 2018+ Procharger?

Mike

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I remember reading a thread a while back that solidified my reasons for buying a Whipple when they went on sale last year. Its linked below.

https://www.f150forum.com/f123/5-0l-...rience-403440/

The thread kind of just died out without much follow up. Folks interested might bring it back and see if the OP responses.

Mike

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The dude in that thread did everything the hard way on his Procharger install. All supercharger installs require you to drain the coolant. You don't have to take the intake manifold off. To get to the MAP sensor you use a larger telescopic mirror to see the back side of the intake and a shorty ratchet for room. The injector standoffs don't just come out with moderate pressure just like he said. I had to clamp on to the top of the standoff with Vise Grips at a 90 degree angle. I then used a long 1/2" extension as a hammering device and tapped upward under the Vise Grip until I hammered the standoff out.

The piping can be put together with Hair Spray. It lubricates when wet and seals when dry. The trick is to put as much piping together out of the truck as possible and then feed it into place. Trimming hoses is part of the deal because they are standard lengths that fit many applications. The trick is to buy a good trimming tool that has about a 4" long razor blade on one side and a flat surface on the other. They act like pliers and clamp down evenly making nice even cuts.

Both the Procharger and Whipple are involved installs. The main thing is they take time to do things right. I would say the Procharger install is a little easier but not a lot.

That guy also paid a lot for his Procharger. My P1SC1 Stage 2 with Helical cut gears and huge intercooler was $5800. I shopped around.