Who here traded their newer Ram for a new F150
08-20-2018, 06:09 AM
#41
I came out of a 15 ram into my f150. I traded in a 06 f150 on the 15 ram. Had the 06 F150 9 years, 190k miles and that old 5,4 never left me stranded. My ram was in the shop 4 times in less than 6 months none of the problems were ever resolved.
1) driver side mirror blew apart on the freeway. Dealer told my wife to tape it back together while waiting for parts. I was out of town.
2) 3 different audio problems. All counted as one above. The dealer never fixed the issues.
3) Multiple CELs the dealer would just clear
Here's the dirty little deal on ram. I thought it was just my dealer but this issue is popping up on more ram forums. My dealer (and other) refuse to give any type of paperwork on warranty work. You can track visits on line through RAM customer care but things like a CEL will show up as no cause found, unable to duplicate. So.....there is really no record what each issue was. I think it is an effort to cover their tracks in case of lemon law actions. Many ram owners have bought code readers just so they can snap a pic whenever a CEL comes on. That way they have a record. Took that POS to a different RAM dealer and traded it in on a used lariat. Haven't looked back for one second.
1) driver side mirror blew apart on the freeway. Dealer told my wife to tape it back together while waiting for parts. I was out of town.
2) 3 different audio problems. All counted as one above. The dealer never fixed the issues.
3) Multiple CELs the dealer would just clear
Here's the dirty little deal on ram. I thought it was just my dealer but this issue is popping up on more ram forums. My dealer (and other) refuse to give any type of paperwork on warranty work. You can track visits on line through RAM customer care but things like a CEL will show up as no cause found, unable to duplicate. So.....there is really no record what each issue was. I think it is an effort to cover their tracks in case of lemon law actions. Many ram owners have bought code readers just so they can snap a pic whenever a CEL comes on. That way they have a record. Took that POS to a different RAM dealer and traded it in on a used lariat. Haven't looked back for one second.
08-20-2018, 06:19 AM
#42
Wow - 20 years go by and you think that Nissan makes a better vehicle than Ford ? Now that's funny... Nissan is, by far, the lowest reliability Japanese manufacturer there is. Toyota and Honda blow them away - Mazda does too.
Same stories over and over ? Google Nissan 4 cylinder head gasket problems. Google Nissan cam position sensor problems. Google Nissan brake light switch problems. Google Nissan cruise control problems. Google Nissan transmission problems. I married into a family that are a bunch of Nissan idiots, and I can tell you first hand they suck. I laugh when I hear them talk about how crappy American cars are, as if all of the above issues I listed mean nothing in their own cars. All of the issues I listed I have witnessed first hand, in their Maximas, Sentras, Titans, Rogues, Altimas, etc. Meanwhile, out of the last 4 F-150s I have owned, I replaced a thermostat and upper ball joints in my 2004 Lightning - at 168,411 miles. The 3 previous trucks to the Lightning all had over 100,000 miles when I sold them and had ZERO repairs. All of them had brakes, belts, fluids, etc. replaced - regular maintenance items for sure. None of the in-laws Nissans have gotten anywhere near my 168,411 miles and ALL of them have had to have various repairs done for the issues I listed above.
FYI - the most reliable vehicle brand you can buy in 2018 is Buick, and they are built in North America.
Same stories over and over ? Google Nissan 4 cylinder head gasket problems. Google Nissan cam position sensor problems. Google Nissan brake light switch problems. Google Nissan cruise control problems. Google Nissan transmission problems. I married into a family that are a bunch of Nissan idiots, and I can tell you first hand they suck. I laugh when I hear them talk about how crappy American cars are, as if all of the above issues I listed mean nothing in their own cars. All of the issues I listed I have witnessed first hand, in their Maximas, Sentras, Titans, Rogues, Altimas, etc. Meanwhile, out of the last 4 F-150s I have owned, I replaced a thermostat and upper ball joints in my 2004 Lightning - at 168,411 miles. The 3 previous trucks to the Lightning all had over 100,000 miles when I sold them and had ZERO repairs. All of them had brakes, belts, fluids, etc. replaced - regular maintenance items for sure. None of the in-laws Nissans have gotten anywhere near my 168,411 miles and ALL of them have had to have various repairs done for the issues I listed above.
FYI - the most reliable vehicle brand you can buy in 2018 is Buick, and they are built in North America.
Wait, lets google ecoboost timing chain problems, no again, no need, I have first hand experience there too.
Google says this and Google says that...thats the problem with half the people on here, they're real life experience is based on what google told them!
You poor little uninformed Ford fanboy...
Last edited by Stu Cazzo; 08-20-2018 at 06:23 AM.
08-20-2018, 09:22 AM
#43
I'll say this: I have yet to see a construction / logging / oil field company run a fleet of Rams. They are exclusively all Ford or GMC. Usually it's the brodozers that buy a lifted Ram as they are typically cheaper than the rest.
If you keep your truck for 3 years or so you will love your Ram, own an older one and it's a crap shoot. Just my observation of living in a truck town and working in several industries.
If you keep your truck for 3 years or so you will love your Ram, own an older one and it's a crap shoot. Just my observation of living in a truck town and working in several industries.
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08-20-2018, 05:54 PM
#44
I almost forgot another HUGE failure for Ram is the 44-44 borg warner transfer case. At least if 4x4 is important to you. That transfer case is clutch driven and when or if the clutches engage is hit or miss.If I put a truck in 4 low that means I need it now, not when the clutches decide to engage. I'm pretty sure this problem ran to at least 2016, knowing RAM the same problem may still exist, check the link
08-20-2018, 06:02 PM
#45
I almost forgot another HUGE failure for Ram is the 44-44 borg warner transfer case. At least if 4x4 is important to you. That transfer case is clutch driven and when or if the clutches engage is hit or miss.If I put a truck in 4 low that means I need it now, not when the clutches decide to engage. I'm pretty sure this problem ran to at least 2016, knowing RAM the same problem may still exist, check the link
Im not in total favor of the Ram, ...as many keep saying all trucks have their issues.
I will not however place the F150 up on a pedestal higher than any of its competition as Ford is equally as guilty of ignoring its own persistent issues.
Last edited by Stu Cazzo; 08-20-2018 at 06:12 PM.
08-20-2018, 07:11 PM
#46
Senior Member
And Ford 4x4 system with the long plagued IWE system isn't much if any better.
Im not in total favor of the Ram, ...as many keep saying all trucks have their issues.
I will not however place the F150 up on a pedestal higher than any of its competition as Ford is equally as guilty of ignoring its own persistent issues.
Im not in total favor of the Ram, ...as many keep saying all trucks have their issues.
I will not however place the F150 up on a pedestal higher than any of its competition as Ford is equally as guilty of ignoring its own persistent issues.
08-20-2018, 07:12 PM
#47
I was rather intrigued with the 12" screen that apparently is in the other thread. What caught my eye was the screen function buttons being so big. I assume that was the main screen. It reminded me of being a screen for the visually impaired. I didn't notice the handicapped icon though. 
It was like "let's give'em a huge screen and we'll just make everything bigger from the old screen content". When the nav screen was brought up, it's image was no bigger than mine although I don't know if it can be enlarged to a full screen mode. That would make sense if it's what can be done. I don't know the point of having a screen that big other than to put more 'stuff' on it without having to go through more pages. The other thing I thought that might be good for that huge screen is to be able to have it pivot to different positions. Being able to turn it a bit toward or away from you. Having it attached to a ball type socket for this function could be good and allow for more positions. Have it operate electronically from the steering wheel and dash for the passenger. Push a button to extend it out a bit from it's mounting point for operation or keep it sucked in when not using that function. Maybe this will be an upgrade in the future.
I actually have no use for such a huge screen myself. The 8 inch is fine and the functions are enough to satisfy me but, it could be useful for others.
It was like "let's give'em a huge screen and we'll just make everything bigger from the old screen content". When the nav screen was brought up, it's image was no bigger than mine although I don't know if it can be enlarged to a full screen mode. That would make sense if it's what can be done. I don't know the point of having a screen that big other than to put more 'stuff' on it without having to go through more pages. The other thing I thought that might be good for that huge screen is to be able to have it pivot to different positions. Being able to turn it a bit toward or away from you. Having it attached to a ball type socket for this function could be good and allow for more positions. Have it operate electronically from the steering wheel and dash for the passenger. Push a button to extend it out a bit from it's mounting point for operation or keep it sucked in when not using that function. Maybe this will be an upgrade in the future.I actually have no use for such a huge screen myself. The 8 inch is fine and the functions are enough to satisfy me but, it could be useful for others.
08-20-2018, 07:16 PM
#48
Senior Member
I was rather intrigued with the 12" screen that apparently is in the other thread. What caught my eye was the screen function buttons being so big. I assume that was the main screen. It reminded me of being a screen for the visually impaired. I didn't notice the handicapped icon though. It was like "let's give'em a huge screen and we'll just make everything bigger from the old screen content". When the nav screen was brought up, it's image was no bigger than mine although I don't know if it can be enlarged to a full screen mode. That would make sense if it's what can be done. I don't know the point of having a screen that big other than to put more 'stuff' on it without having to go through more pages. The other thing I thought that might be good for that huge screen is to be able to have it pivot to different positions. Being able to turn it a bit toward or away from you. Having it attached to a ball type socket for this function could be good and allow for more positions. Have it operate electronically from the steering wheel and dash for the passenger. Push a button to extend it out a bit from it's mounting point for operation or keep it sucked in when not using that function. Maybe this will be an upgrade in the future.
I actually have no use for such a huge screen myself. The 8 inch is fine and the functions are enough to satisfy me but, it could be useful for others.
It was like "let's give'em a huge screen and we'll just make everything bigger from the old screen content". When the nav screen was brought up, it's image was no bigger than mine although I don't know if it can be enlarged to a full screen mode. That would make sense if it's what can be done. I don't know the point of having a screen that big other than to put more 'stuff' on it without having to go through more pages. The other thing I thought that might be good for that huge screen is to be able to have it pivot to different positions. Being able to turn it a bit toward or away from you. Having it attached to a ball type socket for this function could be good and allow for more positions. Have it operate electronically from the steering wheel and dash for the passenger. Push a button to extend it out a bit from it's mounting point for operation or keep it sucked in when not using that function. Maybe this will be an upgrade in the future.I actually have no use for such a huge screen myself. The 8 inch is fine and the functions are enough to satisfy me but, it could be useful for others.
Full screen. And I actually agree that the screen should be canted towards the driver a bit more.
Last edited by VectorZ; 08-20-2018 at 07:18 PM.
08-20-2018, 08:11 PM
#49
I almost forgot another HUGE failure for Ram is the 44-44 borg warner transfer case. At least if 4x4 is important to you. That transfer case is clutch driven and when or if the clutches engage is hit or miss.If I put a truck in 4 low that means I need it now, not when the clutches decide to engage. I'm pretty sure this problem ran to at least 2016, knowing RAM the same problem may still exist, check the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qSYOhDuo5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qSYOhDuo5I
08-20-2018, 08:33 PM
#50
Senior Member
Brand loyalty is generally earned. That's as it should be. Sometimes it's a little misguided (and sometimes a lot), but IME, except for among a very small minority, there is a logical basis of experience for it. I don't think there can be much argument against the notion that brand loyalty is rarely going to be established without some basis. So one can rant and cite the 'fanboy' phenomenon ad nauseum, but it doesn't change the fact that there are generally valid reasons for brand loyalty.
I don't consider myself to be terribly brand-loyal, but I will say that I have no intention of putting a rust bucket Ram or Toyota in my driveway. If I'd had bad experiences with my Fords, I would most definitely be considering other options. Truth is, I have not. If I do in the future, I always have those other options. But with no good reason to look at anything other than Ford, why should I waste my time? Why should I take a risk on something else? And what's the point of the OP's question in the first place? Do it or don't do it. I couldn't care less. Buy what you think is right for you. That's what I do. I don't go to Ram forums and talk about my F150. I just buy what serves me best, and I'm here for mutual support, education, and frequently a smile or two.
I said I was not terribly brand-loyal, and that is the truth. I've had great vehicles and junkers from many different manufacturers. I once owned a Mustang II, for cryin' out loud. I'd be the first to tell you Ford has built some real trash at times. But every other manufacturer has, as well. Some continue to do so. For me, F150 does not even begin to touch that category; and that's coming from many years of almost completely trouble-free ownership.
Fortunately, I am not forced to buy trash, and neither is anybody else here. Buy what you like. If it's a Ram, then good luck. See ya around. End of story.
I don't consider myself to be terribly brand-loyal, but I will say that I have no intention of putting a rust bucket Ram or Toyota in my driveway. If I'd had bad experiences with my Fords, I would most definitely be considering other options. Truth is, I have not. If I do in the future, I always have those other options. But with no good reason to look at anything other than Ford, why should I waste my time? Why should I take a risk on something else? And what's the point of the OP's question in the first place? Do it or don't do it. I couldn't care less. Buy what you think is right for you. That's what I do. I don't go to Ram forums and talk about my F150. I just buy what serves me best, and I'm here for mutual support, education, and frequently a smile or two.
I said I was not terribly brand-loyal, and that is the truth. I've had great vehicles and junkers from many different manufacturers. I once owned a Mustang II, for cryin' out loud. I'd be the first to tell you Ford has built some real trash at times. But every other manufacturer has, as well. Some continue to do so. For me, F150 does not even begin to touch that category; and that's coming from many years of almost completely trouble-free ownership.
Fortunately, I am not forced to buy trash, and neither is anybody else here. Buy what you like. If it's a Ram, then good luck. See ya around. End of story.
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