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Old 09-16-2015, 01:42 AM
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And would a kenne bell S/C for a mustang 5.0 fit on an F-150?
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Ok, I should have clarified. I have a 5.0. If yall want to squabble over which motor is best please do it elsewhere. No one has any idea how much a stock transmission can handle? And beings the whipple S/C is a 2.9L I'm sure it's capable of more that 525hp. That has to be a conservative number.
I know the 5.0 can handle 700hp without any trouble. I know there's people out there running a 1000hp on stock internals although I would never recommend something like that. I would think it is safe to assume that the transmission can handle 700 or better as well. Shelby and Tuscany is coming out with that supercharged f150 special edition and whatever. It's wearing 700hp badges. In order for it to be affordable there's no way it's gonna have an upgraded transmission. Bad enough it's already probably gonna have about a 80-90k dollar price tag. As far as whipper hp numbers... It may be 525 but that would be at the rear wheels and more of like 625 at the engine. If it's still not quite enough you can upgrade the pulley on it for a little more boost.
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And would a kenne bell S/C for a mustang 5.0 fit on an F-150?
I would be concerned with clearance to the firewall.
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I know the 5.0 can handle 700hp without any trouble. I know there's people out there running a 1000hp on stock internals although I would never recommend something like that. I would think it is safe to assume that the transmission can handle 700 or better as well. Shelby and Tuscany is coming out with that supercharged f150 special edition and whatever. It's wearing 700hp badges. In order for it to be affordable there's no way it's gonna have an upgraded transmission. Bad enough it's already probably gonna have about a 80-90k dollar price tag. As far as whipper hp numbers... It may be 525 but that would be at the rear wheels and more of like 625 at the engine. If it's still not quite enough you can upgrade the pulley on it for a little more boost.
The stock transmission can easily handle 700HP. Whipple 2.9 SC will probably give you the best power from a SC. Custom twin turbo's will take it over the top! The stock 5.0 internals are good to 700HP, perfect for a mid budget build. If you really want to get crazy, the 5.0 Short blocks are available in 1,000, 1,500, or 2,000HP ratings. The 1,000HP block would be perfect for a Twin Turbo setup. A 600HP SC build would be a great daily driver, with no engine work needed. It would be quicker than your diesel. On a racing note, MMR has a Mustang 5.0 with 2138 HP! That is currently the highest HP in a 5.0 block.

On Edit: You will find much more on boosted 5.0 builds in the 2011-14 section!

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Originally Posted by TheQuadB
No one has any idea how much a stock transmission can handle?
Ford 6R80 Transmission

6=six speeds
R=Rear wheel drive
80=Strength desigantion of 800NM (590ft lbs)

So Ford has told everyone their transmission can handle 590ft lbs. Going beyond that is your call.
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These are the kind of answers I was looking for, thank you all very much. And I wouldn't want anything crazy, 6-700 at the wheels or so. That power range was very fun in my F-250. Enough to have fun when you wanted, but not too much that it made it hard to drive.
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If one want's to go fast , why would they buy a BRICK? Mustang seems more logical to me .
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If one want's to go fast , why would they buy a BRICK? Mustang seems more logical to me .
Some of us like fast bricks
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Originally Posted by WarSurfer
no, the 45k is only for the engine. Of course you could build one cheaper but that particular example is meant to be a trophy truck engine that can sustain those power levels in extreme environments for extended periods.


I totally agree that right off the bat the Eco is tough to beat $ for $. My point was only to show that when you get past a certain threshold, the cost tends to equal out IF you are building towards the same levels of longevity in addition to performance. Anyone can throw boost at something and make a one hit wonder.
The problem with your argument is that the EB can also upgrade its turbos for the same amount of money. That and it has actual forged internals I believe vs the whatever forged internals the coyote has. For the money, I think the EB will have the coyote beat until you upgrade the internals and add a SC to it.

Then the displacement will have the EB beat for most hp.
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Originally Posted by WarSurfer
no, the 45k is only for the engine. Of course you could build one cheaper but that particular example is meant to be a trophy truck engine that can sustain those power levels in extreme environments for extended periods.


I totally agree that right off the bat the Eco is tough to beat $ for $. My point was only to show that when you get past a certain threshold, the cost tends to equal out IF you are building towards the same levels of longevity in addition to performance. Anyone can throw boost at something and make a one hit wonder.
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I just want to stand up for the Ecoboost a little... There is a very clear upgrade path with it and it is very OEM '"ish" if you will. Of course down pipes are aftermarket but with a forged factory motor if you want more power you can go with Fomoco 7x7 58mm upgraded turbos (for $2K) that come in the same housing as stock turbos making it virtually impossible to tell the upgrade visually - which still gives you a chance if you have a friendly dealer and want warranty work. Its a little different story rolling up with a huge whipple on your Coyote. Down pipe, 58mm turbos, aftermarket intercooler, tstat, air filter, custom tune and bam you're done for under $4,500 (plus install). Install is straight forward since its all direct swap. And best of all, its a very OEM looking build since you can really only see the new intercooler and downpipes. What I like best about this is the torque curve from the upgraded twin turbos that really suits a truck - especially one with larger and heavier tires. Don't get me wrong, I'd give anything for a blown Coyote but let's not sell the modded Eco truck short!
If they tap into your ecm you're SOL because they'll be able to see traces of tune uploads. Even with returning the system to stock. So if keeping the warranty in tact is your argument for the EB with an upgraded turbo then no


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