Seat collapsed in collision
06-12-2018, 12:11 AM
#31
Just an update, but Transport Canada is going to have an investigator on site when Ford takes apart the seat and hopefully I will have confirmation back on what has failed and either it will be a 'yeah just a failed rivet or bolt that was installed incorrectly' or 'whole seat frame bent' kind of a diagnosis but either way it shouldn't have happened. TC did confirm this is the first case of a F150 seat collapse for the new gen. reported for the country but unsure if that is just because no one reported it or there was just nothing to report.
Should have an update next week sometime once they disassemble and get parts ordered! Thanks for the support and background knowledge so far everyone!
Should have an update next week sometime once they disassemble and get parts ordered! Thanks for the support and background knowledge so far everyone!
06-12-2018, 08:46 AM
#32
I can understand why one would be worried when they see pictures or experience what looks like part failures in a crash. I can add this, I was in a head on collision with a Chevy Suburban. We were both going 40 and he decided I guess he wanted to drive in my lane and we hit headlight(s)to headlight(s). Only one person left that accident alive and as you can guess it was me in my F150. The crash investigators said they have not seen such a violent accident when 2 evenly match cars hit with almost identical forces 46.x g forces per truck. Every safety item in the Truck worked. From crumple zones to frame bending to motor/trans/transfer going under the car and not into the cabin. I opened the door and was able to get out, hell the car dialed 911 and the BT still worked. The other truck needed the jaws of life it was so bent and mangled.
I fully agree the seat should be looked at and most likely replaced. Technically so should the seatbelts due to impact stretch. I am glad all is well but I would not loose faith in the ford safety, things may be designed to react differently because of impacts. I am not saying it is right
I fully agree the seat should be looked at and most likely replaced. Technically so should the seatbelts due to impact stretch. I am glad all is well but I would not loose faith in the ford safety, things may be designed to react differently because of impacts. I am not saying it is right
Last edited by mrv99; 06-12-2018 at 08:49 AM.
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06-12-2018, 11:48 AM
#34
06-12-2018, 10:20 PM
#35
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If Transport Canada intends on being there when repairs begin, get ready to see the corporate and government machines at work.
You will not get any information. The paperwork will flow through those two parties.
Analysts, engineers, lawyers, and government... that’s the perfect storm.
You will not get any information. The paperwork will flow through those two parties.
Analysts, engineers, lawyers, and government... that’s the perfect storm.
06-13-2018, 08:35 AM
#36
Although the center seat is the safest place, it is NOT permitted to use the latch system in that seat. Meaning you can't use the inboard latch from the side seats for the center position. it is started clearly and in bold print in the owners manual. to use the center seat for a car seat, the seatbelts need to be used.
As for the original poster, is it possible the seat want fully latched? I know if the seat was moved, say for car seat installation, and a person didn't sit in it, it may not have clicked into a locked position. If it's electric, then I don't know.
As for the original poster, is it possible the seat want fully latched? I know if the seat was moved, say for car seat installation, and a person didn't sit in it, it may not have clicked into a locked position. If it's electric, then I don't know.
06-13-2018, 10:39 AM
#37
We all survived in cars without "latch" systems. You can strap your quadruple insulated baby space pod into the back seat of an '86 Mustang with a lap belt. It'll be fine. I promise.
06-13-2018, 02:26 PM
#38
National speed limits were still 55 in '86. It's 80 on a lot of the interstate here in Utah, now.
Yes, a lot of that weight is to make cars safer, but with more mass there is going to be higher forces in a collision.
I get your point, but I don't think it's an apples to apples comparison.
06-13-2018, 05:26 PM
#39
If Transport Canada intends on being there when repairs begin, get ready to see the corporate and government machines at work.
You will not get any information. The paperwork will flow through those two parties.
Analysts, engineers, lawyers, and government... that’s the perfect storm.
You will not get any information. The paperwork will flow through those two parties.
Analysts, engineers, lawyers, and government... that’s the perfect storm.
At this point TC said they are just waiting for Ford to answer on whether they want to investigate too then they will go ahead with taking it apart and the body shop can get it fixed.
I also do have control over the process somewhat by revoking permission to the truck from TC and the body shop has to give their permission for tc to be there as well so hopefully everything comes out good and I get an answer!
06-13-2018, 05:32 PM
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New Car Seat
Sorry to hear about your truck. With a medical background speaking, you will want to get a new car seat. Even tho it looks un harmed it could be structurally compromised. In accidents involving car seats, the paramedic or emergency department are supposed to cut the straps so they can’t be used again where I am from. Better safe than sorry, having a little one, I know those aren’t the cheapest things around.