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Old Aug 10, 2022 | 12:26 AM
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I must be living under a rock. When in God's name did Ford come out with plastic drain plugs? My '17 5.0 Lariat Screw came with a nice metal plug with o-ring. On the 1st oil change, I immediately changed it out to a Fumoto F137N.
Every Ford product I've owned since 1978 has been outfitted with Fumoto valves.
I was reading a recent post about oil changes with the 13th gen and owners outfitting their trucks with $80 Ronin plugs. What an expensive, over-engineered piece of crap! I'm glad mine is a metal oil pan and plug! When was this change made?
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Old Aug 10, 2022 | 04:55 AM
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2015.

Also, interesting you’re ranting about it and you don’t even have the plastic plug. I have the plastic one on my 2.7 EB. It’s super easy to change the oil and the the engine compartment mounted oil filter is even easier.

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Old Aug 10, 2022 | 06:55 AM
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The Ronin plug is overpriced and overengineered.

I have a F-150 and an Edge with the 2.7 and replaced the OEM plug with these:

Dorman 097-826HP

Still plastic, which I have no issue with, but much less messy.
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Old Aug 10, 2022 | 07:51 AM
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If people didn’t buy them, the price might go down but people buy them and rave about them.

they switched to plastic oil pans in different years for different motors then switched back to metal and now back to some plastic?

my 2017 3.5 was plastic
my 2020 5.0 don’t remember, think metal
my 2018 2.7 was plastic
my 2019 3.5 is metal
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Originally Posted by todd92
The Ronin plug is overpriced and overengineered.

I have a F-150 and an Edge with the 2.7 and replaced the OEM plug with these:

Dorman 097-826HP

Still plastic, which I have no issue with, but much less messy.

I Like this
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Old Aug 10, 2022 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by todd92
The Ronin plug is overpriced and overengineered.

I have a F-150 and an Edge with the 2.7 and replaced the OEM plug with these:

Dorman 097-826HP

Still plastic, which I have no issue with, but much less messy.
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I Like this
Best part is it's $14.44 at advance auto with the August discount code. Might have to pick it up.
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Besides the slight annoyance of having to take off the cardboard cover, I haven’t noticed the oil making a mess or getting on anything. Sure it comes out with a lot of force and takes a lot longer to drain, but I don’t see a reason to switch plugs, yet.

I like the concept of that plug, but I’m not going to fix what isn’t broken.
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Besides the slight annoyance of having to take off the cardboard cover, I haven’t noticed the oil making a mess or getting on anything. Sure it comes out with a lot of force and takes a lot longer to drain, but I don’t see a reason to switch plugs, yet.

I like the concept of that plug, but I’m not going to fix what isn’t broken.
I'm just trying to get educated on the whole plug thing, not just when the change to the plastic plug was made, as I originally posted. I guess I'm old school when it comes to oil changes. I can't wrap my mind around the fact that Ford would depend on a piece of plastic to contain your engine's life blood.
Another question - Is it safe to say that the threaded opening in the oil pan is no longer there? Like a camlock and o-ring instead?
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Old Aug 10, 2022 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2008__XL
Besides the slight annoyance of having to take off the cardboard cover, I haven’t noticed the oil making a mess or getting on anything. Sure it comes out with a lot of force and takes a lot longer to drain, but I don’t see a reason to switch plugs, yet.

I like the concept of that plug, but I’m not going to fix what isn’t broken.
That crappy cover is far more annoying than the drain plug. Remove drain slowly and it makes no mess. Why rip it out so fast. Adds maybe 30 seconds to let the oil drain slowly by removing the plug slowly.
Just watched the video in that dorman link. I think they may be using something other than the proper weight oil for that video, it is comically bad, like a bad TV infomercials.
The product looks great. Just cheesy video.
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Originally Posted by Fodeman
I'm just trying to get educated on the whole plug thing, not just when the change to the plastic plug was made, as I originally posted. I guess I'm old school when it comes to oil changes. I can't wrap my mind around the fact that Ford would depend on a piece of plastic to contain your engine's life blood.
Another question - Is it safe to say that the threaded opening in the oil pan is no longer there? Like a camlock and o-ring instead?
you seem hyperfixated on just the plug, you understand the whole pan is plastic correct? Same with the gas tank and about a million other parts.

The plug is still threaded as you can see if you clicked on the link to the dorman plug, it also has an O ring and had tabs that lock the plug in place.

Lot of issues with the actual pan, ive heard 0 issues with a plug failing, but luckily theres a computer that will give you a low oil pressure light and as long as you arent confused about what to do in that situation, you should be all set
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