Options for increasing hp and tq for 2.7
09-24-2016, 09:41 PM
#31
Originally Posted by ;4965387
Not disputing that..but...you got to go deep to distinguish between tranny reflash, steering or tire calibration or just a baisc battery disconnect.
Dealers don't have the talent to distinguish, and like I said Ford usually only wants the engine.
Dealers don't have the talent to distinguish, and like I said Ford usually only wants the engine.
09-24-2016, 09:44 PM
#32
ford ids system can check number of key cycles and distance driven since last pcm calibration. best bet if your engine blows is to just unplug the tuner from the bash and dont mention it. engines blow for all sorts of reasons and unless your a D**K to the service adviser noone is even going to check for a tune anyway. priority is to fix it and kick it out. does a mechanic care if the rod hanging out the side of the block was caused by a tune? most likely issue is they reflash your pcm following the repair and your tuner gets locked out cause it no longer matches.
09-24-2016, 09:46 PM
#34
What are some quality tune companies to look into to explorer this more? To be honest I don't know much about them. I do know that if I went with a tune I would probably buy the extra warranty as a "just in case".
The only experience with tunes I have had was I had a buddy that tuned his leased Porsche and when he turned it back it there was no issue and the car was still within the warranty. I do realize though that all companies are different.
The only experience with tunes I have had was I had a buddy that tuned his leased Porsche and when he turned it back it there was no issue and the car was still within the warranty. I do realize though that all companies are different.
09-24-2016, 09:48 PM
#35
Senior Member
@KJP - Thanks for the informative posts on this topic. Everything you've stated I also came across while I was doing research on deciding to tune my 2.7.
Having been new to tuning (always drove Toyota’s prior and not much demand there) I didn't fully understand the ins and outs, the major players, etc. My initial thought was that I didn't want to void my warranty, however, after doing a lot of research and talking to others I decided it was something I truly wanted to do. My opinion is that manufactures leave power on the table for future marketing and at the same get hamstrung by regulations. Personally, I want access to the performance the engine can safely make.
I realize there's a small risk of being on the hook if something major does go wrong - That's something I'm willing to accept and be accountable for end of story.
Having had my LMS tune now for the past few days I honestly feel like the truck runs better than it ever has. I couldn't be happier.
What I don't understand is the hysterics that the same old members display anytime the topic comes up. It almost seems as though they try and make it into some sort of moral debate.
I agree with one of the other posters that they should stick to bloviating about who makes the better floor mat...
Having been new to tuning (always drove Toyota’s prior and not much demand there) I didn't fully understand the ins and outs, the major players, etc. My initial thought was that I didn't want to void my warranty, however, after doing a lot of research and talking to others I decided it was something I truly wanted to do. My opinion is that manufactures leave power on the table for future marketing and at the same get hamstrung by regulations. Personally, I want access to the performance the engine can safely make.
I realize there's a small risk of being on the hook if something major does go wrong - That's something I'm willing to accept and be accountable for end of story.
Having had my LMS tune now for the past few days I honestly feel like the truck runs better than it ever has. I couldn't be happier.
What I don't understand is the hysterics that the same old members display anytime the topic comes up. It almost seems as though they try and make it into some sort of moral debate.
I agree with one of the other posters that they should stick to bloviating about who makes the better floor mat...
Half of the commentary around here comes from folks who have never ventured in the direction of a tune.
I have tuned every car, race bike I have ever owned....zero issues if you do your homework
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09-24-2016, 09:49 PM
#36
F250>F150
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What are some quality tune companies to look into to explorer this more? To be honest I don't know much about them. I do know that if I went with a tune I would probably buy the extra warranty as a "just in case".
The only experience with tunes I have had was I had a buddy that tuned his leased Porsche and when he turned it back it there was no issue and the car was still within the warranty. I do realize though that all companies are different.
The only experience with tunes I have had was I had a buddy that tuned his leased Porsche and when he turned it back it there was no issue and the car was still within the warranty. I do realize though that all companies are different.
For me personally, any tuning issues or questions I'm going to Livernois.
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09-24-2016, 09:57 PM
#37
Another stupid question for an F150 rookie, so I purchase the tune from let's say 5*, they mail it to me? Where do I take the truck to get it installed? Any place that has a dyno? Thanks
09-24-2016, 10:00 PM
#38
F250>F150
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Some tuners also come with "canned" tunes that are not specific to your truck, but claim HP/TQ boosts. A "personalized" tune would benefit you more. Dyno is only necessary if you want to verify the gains the tuner company said you would get.
09-24-2016, 11:50 PM
#39
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Options for increasing hp and tq for 2.7
OP:
From personal experience, a tune will give you the best increase in HP and TQ. for the money. I would recommend Livernois. I've been running their tunes for 10,000 miles now, they were installed with 3,000 miles on the truck.
I spent a good deal of time researching when trying to decide what to do much like yourself and could not find even once where Ford did not honor a warranty due to a Livernois tune. Not saying there isn't one but I would challenge the folks that say your warranty is void by showing me where this has happened.
OP:
From personal experience, a tune will give you the best increase in HP and TQ. for the money. I would recommend Livernois. I've been running their tunes for 10,000 miles now, they were installed with 3,000 miles on the truck.
I spent a good deal of time researching when trying to decide what to do much like yourself and could not find even once where Ford did not honor a warranty due to a Livernois tune. Not saying there isn't one but I would challenge the folks that say your warranty is void by showing me where this has happened.
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09-25-2016, 12:36 AM
#40
Senior Member
It has happened several times . I know of one personally and others second hand but reliable. If your engine blows and you had a tune its a strong chance warranty could be denied. Ford has been doing this more in last few years and after the. 6.0 diesel issues.
Here is a post from a few years ago that may help. Of course if you never have an engine blow it wont be an issue. And the ford warranty is a limited warranty. The federal law is onky intended to cover use of non oem parts of equivalent design, specs etc to.oem.
https://www.f150forum.com/f70/thinki...coboost-84773/
That being said, if you accept risks and use a main stream tuner, the chances of engine damage due to a.tuner is fairly low but possible. And a tune is the most power per $. Livernois is not the most powerful but they should be as safe as any other major tuner.
Here is a post from a few years ago that may help. Of course if you never have an engine blow it wont be an issue. And the ford warranty is a limited warranty. The federal law is onky intended to cover use of non oem parts of equivalent design, specs etc to.oem.
https://www.f150forum.com/f70/thinki...coboost-84773/
That being said, if you accept risks and use a main stream tuner, the chances of engine damage due to a.tuner is fairly low but possible. And a tune is the most power per $. Livernois is not the most powerful but they should be as safe as any other major tuner.