jhunt47

Thank you sir
Here are the numbers they posted on there dealer add tab

Nitrogen 99.00
Bed liner. 399.00
Bug shield 299.00
Locking lug nuts. 99.00
Again I didn't pay these.

toptobottom

I forgot about this search method.

I had stopped checking this site because they don't always show the Dealer info for some reason. There are times it's just blank in that spot.

A perfect example - I just tried the truck slamm is looking at (Post #4239) and when you look up the VIN the Dealer is blank. Seems like a hit or miss on it. It is probably worth it to check this site too though. I know that Google caches old listings for a while.

When I checked for the Al Packer listing on Ford.com it doesn't show it in 'Inventory Search' nor does it show for Preston Ford either. When Dealers trade, the truck is vaporized.

toptobottom

You'd have to post the Window Stickers because seeing the build dates may explain a possible price increase occurred.


When I was looking for my truck, I didn't want to even consider the 2.7L. I guess fuel economy made me finally look into it in threads on this Forum. I read about how spunky and reliable it was as Ford has tweaked the bugs from it over the years. It's also installed in other Ford vehicles so it has a proven trust. It changed my view to search only 2.7L's from then on. I'm glad I did because this motor has ***** to get this big truck out of it's own way. It makes the truck around 400 lbs lighter I was heard some say. Believe me, when I stomp on the pedal there's negligible lag.

I don't want to digress as this doesn't belong here but it may help others because of it's additional $300 EcoBoost Incentive.

toptobottom

Yeah, I don't know what the Dealer markup is for each item to show what additional percentage value you received. Roughly, I would say you cleared a 11.5% deal.

toptobottom

First question, is it realistic to see 12.5% discount in central florida?NO! A few have struggled to get between 9-10%.

Second, do my numbers look correct? Yes, until you get to the rebates. You only qualify for these:

$ 250 Retail Bonus Customer Cash (Program# 13082)
$1,250 Retail Customer Cash (Program# 13078)
$1,250 Ford Credit Retail Bonus Customer Cash (Program# 13080)
$2,750 Total Rebate Incentives

You cannot combine the $1,000 trade-in assistance offer with the incentives above. It's one or the other and you'd need excellent credit to get that 0% Offer.

Suggestion: Recalculate your Dealer discount at 11.5% to get your Target Selling Price BEFORE Incentives, Doc Fee & TTL. That's just to try to factor out that $595 Doc fee so that'll bring you in only about 10.7%. Work the hardest you can toward it and that's all I can tell you. Find trucks at other Dealers with a comparable price. Forget the colors, because the ones you don't really like, you can use their quotes (if better) as leverage to price match this truck or another one you want. Build a portfolio of quotes.

Keep in mind that your trade-in is going to change your end game.

toptobottom

You need to turn things around on them right now and tell them you just want to focus on the 'Selling Price' with Freight (destination charge) included. On the table right now with their offer is this:

$34,312 WOW (BS) Price
$1,295 Add back Freight which was NOT included
$ 5,800 Add back included Incentives
$41,407 Koons 'Selling Price' Offer currently

YOUR FURTHER NEGOTIATION


$46,660 Window Sticker Total MSRP
$-1,295 Destination & Delivery
$45,365 Dealer Retail (vehicle + options/Ford discounts)

$45,365 X .13% =$5,897 Dealer discount

$46,660 Total MSRP
$-5,897 Dealer discount
$40,763 YOUR Target 'Selling Price' BEFORE Rebate Incentives, Doc Fee and TTL

If they don't want to go this amount, then they'll do this which is NET 12% after factoring for the $300 Doc fee.

$45,365 X .127% =$5,761 Dealer discount

$46,660 Total MSRP
$-5,761 Dealer discount
$40,899 YOUR Compromise 'Selling Price' BEFORE Rebate Incentives, Doc Fee and TTL

toptobottom

I know you're trying to be helpful but it just isn't that helpful in the sense of what we really need to know.

To give a humorous analogy, it sort of reminds me of this cartoon:

Michael Ashworth

Two questions:

1. Are the rebates/incentives based on where I take delivery (my address) or where the dealer is located?

2. Does anyone know a target dealer discount on a F-250 XLT would be? Been looking through the forums without much luck.

Thanks

Longhorngary

Ok I'll take a stab, Austin, Texas 78746, Looking at Heavily loaded XLT screw FX4

52,635 MSRP
1,295 Destination
=51340
- 6314 Dealer Discount (by my calculation is 12%)
=46,321 before rebates
- 4,500 he claims I qualify for $4,500 in rebates including $1,250 FMC rebate
=$41,821
-750 private cash offer from Ford received last night. He doesn't know about this yet.
= $41,071 before TT&L and doc
+2,567 sales taxes
+ 85 dealer inventory tax
+ 104 license plate
+ 82 Title and registration
+ 150 doc fee
$44,059 Out the door price

This was their first stab but it looks pretty tight. Is there anything left on the bone here?
Might ask to throw in a bed extender. Thoughts. Are my numbers good?

toptobottom

1. Are the rebates/incentives based on where I take delivery (my address) or where the dealer is located?Where YOU'RE going to register the truck

2. Does anyone know a target dealer discount on a F-250 XLT would be? Been looking through the forums without much luck. Should be the same principal as the F150. Read all posts starting from page 300 to learn how to calculate a Target Selling Price. Lot's of good info/examples in these pages.