Topic Sponsor
2015 - 2020 Ford F150 General discussion on the 13th generation Ford F150 truck.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

IWE issues

Old 02-18-2019, 08:56 AM
  #21  
Village Sociopath


iTrader: (1)
 
johnday in BFE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Nowhereville Barton City Michigan
Posts: 28,516
Received 10,051 Likes on 6,499 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Jhous3s
Honestly, the grinding is the locking collar hitting the hub once in a while. You won’t do any major damage if corrected promptly. Mine have been grinding on and off for the past few months until I finally fixed it a few weeks ago. The hub was perfectly fine. Here’s what my hub actuators looked like.

I ended up replacing both hub actuators, check valve and solenoid. Thankfully it’s been fine since.

I honestly think nothing was wrong with any part of my truck expect the actuators. I ended up replacing the other stuff since it was cheap.

Was that an OEM part?
Old 02-18-2019, 09:07 AM
  #22  
Village Sociopath


iTrader: (1)
 
johnday in BFE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Nowhereville Barton City Michigan
Posts: 28,516
Received 10,051 Likes on 6,499 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ezekiel198
Thanks so much! Commonly failed part? I read alot about them on here.

I just got my 18 and left a Tacoma. Was amazed at how quick the 4wd engaged and how quiet the system is comparatively
Unfortunately, yes, a common failure. That's the first I've seen of Jhous failure like that though. In some cases, it can be as simple as $10 checkvalve. Takes a bit more looking and testing for vacuum leaks after that. No amount of poking around would have found Jhous's problem other than very close inspection, and knowing what you're looking at.
Trick to prevent more damage, is to get the system looked at ASAP, if you're not comfortable troubleshooting. It's a pretty simple system really. The grinding will eventually damage the IWE to the point of having to replace. The IWE isn't always the root cause.
Old 02-18-2019, 10:56 AM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Jhous3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: El Paso, Tx
Posts: 100
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

I had two OEM actuators and a Dorman fail the same way. Most that have failed recently are under warranty and people don’t get to see the part. All we ever see is “Dealer replaced both wheel ends” but in reality they fail just like mine. It’s really the only way they fail. It’s rare the actual vacuum diaphragms fail.

Now both my OEM parts probably failed due to poor installing during a level kit install. The dorman however, that one started to fail just after a few hundred miles after a proper install.

My truck currently has 2 OEM ones with no issues so far. I know they will fail again so I have two spares. I also did dual check valves in case one fails.

Last edited by Jhous3s; 02-18-2019 at 11:00 AM.
The following users liked this post:
johnday in BFE (02-18-2019)
Old 02-18-2019, 11:55 AM
  #24  
Village Sociopath


iTrader: (1)
 
johnday in BFE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Nowhereville Barton City Michigan
Posts: 28,516
Received 10,051 Likes on 6,499 Posts

Default

Dorman doesn't surprise me at all. What do think is causing the separation to happen?
Old 02-18-2019, 01:11 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
Jhous3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: El Paso, Tx
Posts: 100
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by johnday
Dorman doesn't surprise me at all. What do think is causing the separation to happen?
It’s cheap glue.
The following users liked this post:
johnday in BFE (02-18-2019)
Old 02-18-2019, 02:39 PM
  #26  
Senior Member
 
fordtrk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 591
Received 91 Likes on 79 Posts

Default

I have had them fail that way,several Ford and Dorman. A no name china one lasted 3 months when the other Ford one started humming. That's when I took them out and put in the eliminator kit. They end up starting to separate then get water/moisture in them and rust and corrode.
The following users liked this post:
johnday in BFE (02-18-2019)
Old 02-18-2019, 04:53 PM
  #27  
Member
 
DrewNJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Marlton, NJ
Posts: 75
Received 24 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

What's the benefit of the eliminators vs. unplugging the solenoid?
Old 02-18-2019, 05:32 PM
  #28  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
05lariat4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by DrewNJ
What's the benefit of the eliminators vs. unplugging the solenoid?
Id like to know to. It sounds like even if I get this fixed it’s just going to keep breaking.
Old 02-18-2019, 07:25 PM
  #29  
Junior Member
 
'16F150FX4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

What would be the consequence of not repairing a grinding front left IWE (or hub actuator) over a prolonged period- say a year?

I have already noticed:
  • a significant drop in mpg (18.7 city/hwy avg down to 13-14 mpg avg over the last several months).
  • The intermittent grinding noise that my front left wheel hub used to make seems to have been replaced by an ever-present "friction" noise (constant grinding or rubbing) that the dealer believes is tire noise, but this noise only comes from the front left wheel and sounds like 4-wheel drive is always engaged on that hub.
Old 02-18-2019, 07:51 PM
  #30  
Senior Member
 
fordtrk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 591
Received 91 Likes on 79 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by DrewNJ
What's the benefit of the eliminators vs. unplugging the solenoid?
With just unplugging the solenoid your still relying on the spring pressure in the IWE to keep it locked in 4 wheel drive. Mine the spring pressure got weak and would pop and bang as it slipped out of 4 wheel. After replacing it for humming in 2 wheel it was good for awhile but then the other side went.Then from it being bad so long (cause the dealer couldn't hear it) it wore the edge of the gear on the cv so it wouldn't engage properly. The eliminator kit is made from stronger metal and is wider for more gear tooth contact. Eventually IWE leak get moisture and rust the spring. So this eliminates the iwe and the vacuum system.
The following users liked this post:
johnday in BFE (02-18-2019)

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: IWE issues



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:36 AM.