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Old Jan 15, 2019 | 07:50 PM
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Apparently it's all wheel drive season at Toyota. Ice, mud and snow are "no obstacle". Too bad the rest of us don't have magic leprechauns under our hoods to make tractionless conditions a non-issue.

Discussion: Do mfg's contribute to misconceptions the general public has about the capabilities of AWD/4WD vehicles?
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Old Jan 15, 2019 | 08:05 PM
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Maybe people should learn to drive in the conditions. Some of us prefer to use common sense. Not to rely on the nannies .
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Old Jan 15, 2019 | 08:10 PM
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Apparently from the "Cash-Ki" (I know, that's not how they spell it) commercial that is currently on the idiot box here, only their "intelligent" AWD will go up a hill with a little snow and ice on it. I'll never get my F150 up that slippery slope. Guess I'll have to trade it in.
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Old Jan 15, 2019 | 08:16 PM
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Absolutely.

About 10 years ago, my wife and I were headed to the big city for a weekend. Rural life has its perks, but raging blizzards isn’t one of them. Out here, you’re on your own.

A real heller had just blown through, leaving behind 12” of now hard packed snow in drifts up to 6’ deep.

Coincidentally, my son had just purchased a 4x4, and was anxious to get home to show it to us before we left. As I was loading the car, I heard something coming down the blacktop at a pretty good clip. I glanced over, and watched as he blasted into the south (uncleared) driveway. He hit that drift in a great big “puff”, and he was stopped dead in his tracks. He high centered about 2’ off the ground, utilizing the 4x4’s ability to take him into some very tough terrain.

I sighed, went back in the house, and put on my cold weather gear. It took me, a John Deere 3020, and a Westendorf Loader with a 6’ bucket about 45 minutes to dig him out.

All I heard was, “Well, it’s a 4 wheel drive truck, and I thought they would go through anything!”
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Old Jan 15, 2019 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamingtaco
Too bad the rest of us don't have magic leprechauns under our hoods to make tractionless conditions a non-issue.
you have to step up to a raptor to get those.
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Old Jan 15, 2019 | 08:45 PM
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Absolutely.

About 10 years ago, my wife and I were headed to the big city for a weekend. Rural life has its perks, but raging blizzards isn’t one of them. Out here, you’re on your own.

A real heller had just blown through, leaving behind 12” of now hard packed snow in drifts up to 6’ deep.

Coincidentally, my son had just purchased a 4x4, and was anxious to get home to show it to us before we left. As I was loading the car, I heard something coming down the blacktop at a pretty good clip. I glanced over, and watched as he blasted into the south (uncleared) driveway. He hit that drift in a great big “puff”, and he was stopped dead in his tracks. He high centered about 2’ off the ground, utilizing the 4x4’s ability to take him into some very tough terrain.

I sighed, went back in the house, and put on my cold weather gear. It took me, a John Deere 3020, and a Westendorf Loader with a 6’ bucket about 45 minutes to dig him out.

All I heard was, “Well, it’s a 4 wheel drive truck, and I thought they would go through anything!”
Kids!! At least he learned his lesson in the driveway, not out in the middle of nowhere.
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 02:11 AM
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Discussion: Do mfg's contribute to misconceptions the general public has about the capabilities of AWD/4WD vehicles?
Absolutely. Down here, it's pretty rare that we have "winter weather". When we do, it usually involves a nice coating of black ice. You would be surprised the number of people that, after I've watched their very nice trucks or SUV play ping-pong down the Interstate, look at me with incredulity and say "but I have 4 wheel drive!"

It's funny watching the light bulb turn on when I say "yes, you do... but every car has 4 wheel stop..."

Idiots.
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In Minnesota, it's amazing how many people buy SUVs and trucks because they are so much better in winter. Yet...they are always the ones rolled over or in the ditch after flying by people going 70 when everyone else is going 45. I'll be honest, I prefer driving our truck in winter but not because it does all that much better than our other vehicles...it's because if I do get into an accident, I'm probably better off in the truck than in a sedan. That and because when MnDOT takes a vacation after 12"+ snowstorms, the 4WD actually makes a difference then. On ice or small snowfalls, which accounts for 90% of our winter driving up here, it doesn't matter what you drive.
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18 F150 XLT 4wd I also owned a 2017 Escape AWD and now a 2018 Murano AWD. I will say this, I will take the AWD anytime if it is offered as an additional option on an XLT versus the 4WD switch. AWD auto is by far the way to go.
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Originally Posted by gopherman
In Minnesota, it's amazing how many people buy SUVs and trucks because they are so much better in winter. Yet...they are always the ones rolled over or in the ditch after flying by people going 70 when everyone else is going 45. I'll be honest, I prefer driving our truck in winter but not because it does all that much better than our other vehicles...it's because if I do get into an accident, I'm probably better off in the truck than in a sedan. That and because when MnDOT takes a vacation after 12"+ snowstorms, the 4WD actually makes a difference then. On ice or small snowfalls, which accounts for 90% of our winter driving up here, it doesn't matter what you drive.
agreed, i see it here too. some people with 4wd think they can drive like its sunny and 70 when the roads are snow covered.
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